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Rockstar Energy

Sat Apr 05, 2008 at 07:17:07 AM PDT

Last week I had a stomach bug that seriously effected my usual coffee-caffeine intake, mainly because I can't drink coffee without cream of some kind and dairy? was not my friend. So on our way to my cousin's 6th birthday party (where DH and I are expected to be those really cool adults that keep up with the kiddies) I picked up my first RockStar energy drink.

With the exception of the jäger bombs my co-workers and I would slam down after a long day at work (assuring we could stay up and sing bad Karaoke at the bar) I had never tried an energy drink before that day. Yesterday I bought a case of them. Oy, I think I'm in trouble.

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So I decided to do a little research to see if my heart would suddenly explode from my chest while I'm trying to put out the latest work fire drill project. The short summary seems to indicate energy drinks are just like any other caffeinated drink- they give a temporary boost, they aren't sports drinks and won't be particularly hydrating, you have to make sure you monitor your daily intake and if you get the sugary ones, you're gonna get fat. And pretty well every article talking about the "health effects" ends like this onedoes:

Get adequate sleep, exercise regularly and eat a healthy diet. These strategies not only will increase your energy in the short run, but also will help you maintain your overall physical and mental fitness in the long run.

Well thanks SOOOOO much Mayo Clinic! I had NO IDEA that just getting some more sleep and eating right and all those things that take the time I currently DO NOT HAVE would help so much!

If anything, my new obsession drink is making me a little more aware of some things. I am drinking a LOT less coffee, which is something I'd like to get away from anyway. I would say, over the past 2 years, the majority of my weight gain has been from drinks. When McD's came out with their iced coffees I thought they were heavenly until a quick look-up noted that they had 8 grams of FAT and around 200 calories. The new Sweet Iced Tea is over 250 calories. So I make sure to choose the diet Rockstar with no carbs and very limited calories. One can is 2 servings, so I make sure I only get 1 a day, and I treat it like a 3pm treat. I've been working out on my lunches, so I enforce the water rule before and after. I'm probably never getting away from caffeine. When I first got pregnant I told the girls at work I was giving up diet coke to "lose weight"- three weeks later I found a case of the pop on my desk with a note "for everyone's sake, drink some damn coke." Apparently I'd been a tad cranky. My Dr. gave me the go-ahead for limited amounts so I never truly gave it up past those three weeks. I figure it's better than when I used to smoke, so there you go.

Anyone else "ride the bull" or take these energy drinks? Aside from the obvious (be healthy and you'll feel better) does anyone have any quick-boost-in-the-office energy suggestions?

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  • My 20 year old son (0 / 0)

    is into the energy drinks.  I worry about this mainly because we have such a family history of heart rhythm problems.  I tell  him, over and over, to watch how many he's drinking, be careful about using them with other drinks/foods that might have caffeine or stimulant effects, etc.  So far, his heart hasn't exploded, either.  Ofcourse, being a 20 year old male, he's not had a problem with weight gain...the metabolism at that age is wondrous.

    I like my caffeine.  Truly, and I don't say this to be funny, its a drug that works very well for me personally.  I don't like calories, however, so all of mine comes from Diet Coke.  I didn't like to drink diet back when I was pregnant all those years ago...at the time, they were warning against using nutra sweet while pregnant.  I did use caffeine, however...and it posed no particular problem.  Heck, after developing gestational diabetes in the second half of most of my pregnancies, I even drank diet.  My kids were all fine.  They had normal birthweights, in fact, most were on the large side.  They weren't jittery, or collicky.  I did, however, find that I needed to cut back on the caffeine a bit while nursing...or, at least time my in-take.  It would sometimes make my babies a bit hyper and cause them to not sleep as well.

  • caffeine (0 / 0)

    I'm a former caffeine fiend myself - 8 to 12 large mugs of coffee a day at my peak in my mid 20's - so I've been there.  When the doctor ordered me off the coffee it was really rough.  But looking at these drinks as a "free lunch" to get your caffeine while losing weight may be misguided.  

    Diet drinks do not help you lose or maintain weight.  It seems obvious that substituting 0 calories for 200 calories is a no brainer, yet it just flat out does not work.  I don't know why this gets no press; the research community has been puzzling over it for a long time.  But there is now increasing data implicating artificial sweeteners, including early evidence (in animals) that artificial sweeteners actually reduce the rate at which the body burns calories.  You know how some people can eat all they want without gaining, while others try very hard and can't lose a pound?  Well, the people who try very hard are also the ones consuming artificial sweeteners.

    That said, I don't see anything wrong with high caffeine drinks.  I'd probably choose the version with real sugar and compensate elsewhere in my diet but that's just my reading of preliminary literature - there isn't nearly enough data to actually make that recommendation.  The most I can say for sure is that there's presumably no advantage to the diet versions.

    You probably want to start gradually cutting back though, since the link between high caffeine and miscarriage risk looks robust.  Moderate caffeine is ok.  When I went cold turkey on doctor's orders it was horrible, and I went right back to high levels a couple of years later.  But when I weaned myself gradually my body never missed it.

  • i work for red bull (their music academy, that is (0 / 0)

    and over the past 1.5 years, i have gotten used to the taste of red bull. i may drink it late at night while i am at a gig, it is midnight, and i don't go on until  3am or something ridiculous.

    i do not like to drink it with alcohol. it is too much for my system. and i never have more than two in one day, never right in a row.

    i find that my body benefits from the over 100% of vitamins b6 and b12, as well as the niacin. some people cannot tolerate that much niacin. makes them flush.

    all this said, i am still a coffee girl. i make a couple shots in the morning here at home, then usually get four shots over ice to sip on throughout the day. this sounds like a ton, i know. a lot less than i used to drink, having been a barista for years. and actually less caffeine than the same amount of brewed coffee, as espresso has less caffeine than regular drip.

    i like my energy bitter, hah!

    We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home. - E.R. Murrow

    by lorin on Sat Apr 05, 2008 at 12:58:07 PM PDT

  • Careful this stuff is addictive (0 / 0)

    I order a case of the 20 ounce resealable cans from the manufacturer every month, and drink about one a day.  I'm sure they'll declared rockstar illegal before long.

    • why illegal? (0 / 0)

      i do not see how it is any more addictive than coffee, cigarettes, and alcohol. and actually contains vitamins, unlike all of those other things.

      i say we make cigarettes illegal first.

      We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home. - E.R. Murrow

      by lorin on Sat Apr 05, 2008 at 01:20:47 PM PDT

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  • coffee (0 / 0)

    I'm a coffee girl for sure.  Love it.  Half a cup in the morning, half a cup at 1 pm. Would never substitute it.

    It looks like this stuff only has 80 mg of caffeine per 8 oz, while a normal cup of coffee (not Starbucks) has 120 or so.  Can't imagine why they would ban it, although those vitamin amounts look crazy to me.

  • Energy drinks (0 / 0)

    are kind of a scam.

    Biochemically speaking, carbs provide energy in the diet. You're going for the sugar-free one, so there's no energy in there.

    What you are getting are stimulants. Most of what's in those is also elsewhere (eg caffeine) or unproven (many of the ingredients).

    The biggest scam to me is the price. One energy drink is a whole lot more than a cup of coffee, or even a (bigger) can of Coca Cola (which compared to a sugared energy drink, actually gives you more carbs for the price).

    If you like the taste and think it gives you a boost, go ahead. But chances are, you could get the same boost from coffee, tea, or just plain soda.

    And the Mayo clinic is right. You'll be stimulated, but you won't really be energetic from an energy drink.

    -Cheryl

    • That sounds like (0 / 0)

      my worst nightmare.

      You'll be stimulated, but you won't really be energetic from an energy drink.

      Post-kids, I've turned into an incredibly light sleeper with a lot of insomnia issues.  I've found that I'm VERY sensitive to caffeine, and I try not to drink anything with caffeine after 3-4:00.  I actually buy caffeine-free soda, but I'll drink a regular diet coke out for lunch or something, but that's about it, or I'll be up until 2AM, with my mind spinning, but physically too tired to do much.

      I have a lot of friends who are big red bull and vodka fans when we go out.  I'm afraid to even try to go there... I tend to be a "curl up in the corner" kind of girl after a couple of drinks anyway.

      • red bull and vodka (0 / 0)

        is the "curl up in the corner" girl's best friend. As long as you li it yourself to the "I'm not looking to get plastered" category, one or two red bull and vodkas (they only ever use 1/3 of a can, cheap bastards) will give you a boost to keep up dancing or just staying up late.

    • I get it... (0 / 0)

      I totally get it's an artificial high- it's like anything artificial. My point with the mayo clinic's piece is that it's NO SECRET that good diet, exercise and plenty of sleep will be the best "energy boost." But generally speaking, most jobs / lifestyles today don't exactly leave a lot of room for what's right an d practical. I joined curves and I'm working out three to four times a week, mid day, so I'm not sitting at my desk for 9 hours a day, and I attempt to make positive food choices but there aren't enough hours in th day to get all the sleep I need and at 3pm? I'm looking for something artificial.

      Though now that it's nicer out, I'll try to take those 5-10 minute walks outside every now and then during the work day to help feel a little better.

    • Soda. (0 / 0)

      Get the same high from a soda? Nah. I think the key is to keep in mind how much caffeine you're consuming in each drink. Sure, it's a stimulant. I ought to have slept more last night. But I didn't. And sometimes that means a stimulant to get me through the day. And to put that into perspective, the average mug of coffee has 100mg of caffeine. A coke has 30mg. My Monster Energy (my energy drink of choice) has 180mg. I don't know about you, but I'd struggle to drink 6 cans of coke to get the equivalent effect. The biggest concern I have for these things is that people mostly have no idea what amount of caffeine is in each of the drinks - that's important for you to monitor your intake. The big energy drink cans run the gamut from about 80mg to over 200mg, but they all look the same, and they're all marketed the same (I have a similar beef about the fact many states lack information on alcohol content on beer).

      "You're never more alone than when you're alone in a crowd."

      by Expat Briton on Mon Apr 07, 2008 at 07:41:59 AM PDT

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  • My experience (0 / 0)

    I realized that I was becoming more dependant on coffee in the mornings and that I wasn't really feeling good, just awake.  

    After experimenting some, I discovered that I feel better, and have more energy if I drink less coffee and eat more protein in the mornings.  

  • mmmm, coffee (0 / 0)

    I love my morning coffee, but stay away for the rest of the day.  I have colleagues that swear by Rockstar, and claim that regular consumption eliminates the need for sweaters.  

    --R

    • I find that (0 / 0)

      pregnancy also reduces the need for sweaters, but I don't recommend it as a wool-avoiding strategy! ;-P

      • True, that (0 / 0)

        We have frost during the night at the moment and DH is not happy that I insist on having the window open. I'm rarely cold at night anyway, but it's 'worse' now - and having a layer of plastic to protect the mattress in case my water breaks doesn't exactly help...

        But as a strategy to keep warm pregnancy's a bit drastic...

        • Plastic. (0 / 0)

          It may be a bit late for you, but the Tempur-Pedic mattress protectors are both waterproof and don't feel like plastic at all. I've no idea how much "water" we're talking about (to allow the air to move in the mattress, only the top is waterproof and the sides are porous, so...), and they're not cheap, but it might be something worth bearing in mind. Most places that stock tempur-pedic mattresses have samples so you can get an idea of what it feels like before shelling out for one.

          "You're never more alone than when you're alone in a crowd."

          by Expat Briton on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:28:24 AM PDT

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          • Might be any day now (0 / 0)

            but could be another 3.5 weeks... Apparently, something like a liter (2.1 US pints) is perfectly normal.

            I actually don't sleep directly on the plastic (eeew!), but it's simply a lot more sweaty when the mattress doesn't get to take up any fluid - not sure other materials that protect the mattress from humidity would be any better in that respect since the whole point is that the humidity does not reach the mattress. Oh well, it's only minor discomfort. But thanks for the tip, anyway.

            • Yeah, I don't know if it would help. (0 / 0)

              Certainly, I was surprised that it doesn't make me uncomfortable (water disrupts the cell structure of memory foam mattresses, it completely wrecks them, so a waterproof mattress protector is really essential, especially if you have cats like ours that knock glasses of water over onto the mattress on a semi-regular basis), but I don't know if I sweat less? Sounds like it's a possibility. I had kind of been assuming it was the texture and noise of plastic that was bothering you, and this would at least deal with that.

              "You're never more alone than when you're alone in a crowd."

              by Expat Briton on Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 07:55:40 AM PDT

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            • counting down! (0 / 0)

              FWIW, they had to break my water in hospital. Bizarre.

        • urgh (0 / 0)

          I was pregnant during northern hemisphere summer with Jess, and the last week of my pregnancy was a freak heat wave in London (yes, heat wave by London standards - it was, like, 33). Sweltering. Do not want to contimplate being pregnant in an Aussie summer with routine weeks over 38! (If Aussieyank is reading, do not enlighten me, please. I prefer ignorance.)

          • DD was born during a 'heat wave' too (0 / 0)

            I know, nothing compared to what you'd get downunder, but nonetheless unpleasant with the humidity here - think London-style heat wave. It was funny: in the week after DD was born, my roomy in the hospital and I were complaining that it was so hot in there, whereas all visitors commented that it was so nice and cool. OB walked in in shorts one day, that kind of stuff :-)

            The good thing was that DD was born right at the start of the heat wave, so I didn't suffer it with a huge belly. We spent lots of time out in the yard, even when DD was very small - good memories.

  • On top of the fact that (0 / 0)

    I think energy drinks taste like {BLEEP}... Rockstar is owned by talk-show jerk Michael Savage's relatives (son and/or wife). No way in he'll I would want them to get any of my money!!!

    I find walking outside and running down to the corner for a cup of decaf (yes, decaf -- I can't drink caffeine in the afternoon) helps wake me up.

  • mmmmmmmm caffeine (0 / 0)

    The only thing I love more is white wine.

    Does anyone else have the Ralph's World cd with the song about coffee on it? "M-O-M-M-Y needs C-O-F-F-E-E, D-A-D-D-Y needs C-O-F-F-E-E. I need a latte, a cappucino, and tonight I think I'll have a little vino."

    I did give up caffeine altogether when I was trying to get pregnant and during preganancy and nursing. Hated every minute of it.

    I've never tried these drinks though. Like others here, I get my caffeine purely through coffee, two cups a day with an occasional third one snuck in there when I get desperate. It really is my boost of choice at the moment, so rest assured Melissa that you aren't alone.

    However, I do find that staying hydrated and doing yoga a few times a week keeps me energized (along with the coffee) during the really dreadful stretches when I'm not getting enough sleep. Like all of my life I guess.

  • Tea (0 / 0)

    It's a rarity to be a tea addict on this side of the Atlantic, but I love English Breakfast (Peet's caf and decaf, thanks).

    I do have diet Coke too but have not made the leap to energy drinks.  Too scary for me.  I remember when Jolt came out - remember that? - that was the first of them that I know of.

    • Java Water (0 / 0)

      In college, this miracle drug called "java water" came out- literally, caffeinated water. It was heavenly, the only reason I ever drank water in college other than to nurse a hangover. We used to make coffee out of it. And then smoke a million cigarettes. Oh so healthy!

      I remember being on a band trip in high school to Florida and the trombones had a deal going where they wouldn't drink anything BUT jolt cola. It was funny to watch.

  • I can't stand the smell of coffee (0 / 0)

    so I am most certainly NOT a coffee drinker.  Like KC, I am also caffeine sensitive and can't have anything after 4 in the afternoon or I won't be able to sleep.

    I do, however, love caffeine drinks - they're a little slice of happy for me if I have one during the day. I like colas and hot or iced tea with lots of sugar.  As far as I know, I have never tried an energy drink.

    Sometimes I don't feel like a "real" adult because I don't drink coffee or wine.

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