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Public Education No Longer Free in CA

Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 05:42:41 AM PDT

Public education, which is a free service guaranteed by the California Constitution, is no longer free. According to the Los Angeles Times, various school districts are asking parents to fork over cash in an effort to hold onto teachers after proposed budget cuts by our Governator.

South Orange County families are being urged to donate $400 per student to save the jobs of 266 teachers in the Capistrano Unified School District.

Parents at Long Beach's Longfellow Elementary are among countless statewide who are launching fundraising foundations.

Bay Area parents launched a campaign featuring children standing in trash cans; the theme is "Public Education Is Too Valuable to Waste..."

"Public education is free, but an excellent public education is not free at this point," said Janet Berry, president of the Davis Schools Foundation, which recently launched the Dollar-a-Day campaign, urging citizens of the city near Sacramento to donate $365 per child, grandchild or student acquaintance.

Gov. Ahnold Schwarzenegger has proposed cutting about $4.8 billion in education this year and next. In the meantime, about 20,000 teachers, librarians, nurses and other school positions have been alerted that they will be fired.

In an effort to save money, school districts are looking at increasing class sizes, closing down some schools and eliminating programs such as International Baccalaureate and Advanced Placement. Don't worry, sports will also be eliminated so this budget crisis affects everyone. Everyone except those who live in wealthy school districts and can raise the funds to keep their programs.

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In the Anaheim City School District, four of every five students qualify for free or reduced-price lunches, a poverty indicator. A district volunteer-led foundation raises about $50,000 annually through employee contributions and fundraisers to send all sixth-graders to overnight science camp in the San Bernardino Mountains.

The Anaheim parents are never asked to do more than volunteer for small fundraisers, such as bake sales or selling gift wrap or entertainment books.

"It's not even a consideration to be able to ask them for money," said district spokeswoman Suzi Brown. "When we look at what other districts are doing, they've got foundations that have paid staff. We don't compete with that at all. We are in a completely different league."

Recently I saw our dear president on CNN with Mexico and Canada, defending NAFTA. He talked about all the jobs created because of it -- here at home -- and no mention of anything else. What planet does this guy live on? What will it take for Republicans to wake up?

Those of you with children in the California public schools, how are you dealing with the proposed budget cuts?

Tags: public education, California, budget cuts, teacher layoffs, tuition, donations, budget crisis, Los Angeles Times (all tags)

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  • Wow (0 / 0)

    Wow, California is really getting hit there.

    It's already legal here in NJ to charge "activity fees" for any extracurricular activities that aren't mandated by the state, whether sports or other activities.  

    I find it so offensive.  First of all, I have a big problem charging people to use buildings and facilities that are public in general.  

    And of course, it's never applied evenly.  An ice hockey team will have to pay for their ice time, but the football team gets whatever they want including ridiculous field lights so they can have home games at night a few times a year.

    There is an exemption for kids who can't afford it.  That kind of sucks too and I hope they do it in a way that is confidential.

    And all the rich towns have foundations for the public schools now too, with their big annual high-price ticket benefits each year.    

  • All districts in CA are not created equal (0 / 0)

    Districts are measured by "per pupil" allotments from the state. Our district, Irvine, has one of the lowest in the entire state.  We are a district that sends more tax revenue to Sacramento than we get back.

    The cut that will affect my family is 3rd grade class size reduction (CSR).  They're looking to save only about half a million dollars- all teacher salaries- but once they reconfigure classrooms from 20 to 33 students, we'll never get CSR back.  My daughter is currently in 1st grade.

    In past years, the IPSF (Irvine Public Schools Foundation) has held campaigns to "save CSR."  My favorite part of their campaign was a promise - if we don't raise enough money and CSR is not saved, you will get your donation back!  CSR has been in place for K-3 and 9 since my kids started in this district.  The Governator comes rampaging in with his cuts and now we're losing 3rd and 9th grade CSRs.

    The cuts on paper are merely suggestions until the actual state budget is published, perhaps as late as September.  The individual districts have to create their budgets by June 30.  The bottom line is, if the State Budget provides more generously to districts than anticipated, the districts can "save" some of their previously cut programs.  It's going to be a long summer.

  • In Ohio, (0 / 0)

    there are many school districts that just out and out charge "fees"....these can range from small fees in the $5-$20 range, or larger fees that might go past a hundred or so dollars.  Ofcourse, they always state that those who can't afford to pay these fees won't be penalized, but I wonder what one has to do to prove this.

    Recently an interesting case was presented involving a couple of the suburban schools in our area.  Both of these districts were offering full day kindergarten, but requiring payment for the full day option.  Half day was free.  I can't remember how this was resolved; I'll have to search that out.  

    • I did it (0 / 0)

      I got an exemption for my SAT fees in high school due to income.  It wasn't a big deal, I just had to ask my guidance counselor for the form and send it in with the registration instead of the check.  My mom did have to declare something on the form regarding income though, I can't remember.  But it wasn't too onerous.

      I hope that these schools are handling exemptions to all these fees discreetly and I hope that students and families know they are there and feel empowered enough to go ask for them if they need them.

    • At our school, we have an optional Montessori (0 / 0)

      And while regular 3 hour, 20 min. kindergarten is free, there is a tuition fee for the 5-hour Montessori kindergarten.  The fee pays for that extra 100 minutes, plus an aide who assists the instructor all day.  Entrance into the Montessori program is by lottery, so only 35 kids get in and there are a hundred or more who enter the lottery.

      Personally, I think a partial pay program is brilliant.  Even in a non-Montessori setting, I would gladly pay a fee to gain certain programs for my children - to benefit them directly.  Right now I'd fork over a nice chunk if I could be guaranteed a 20-to-1 ratio.  Right now we're facing 33/35 students to one teacher and for primary grades, that's going to hurt.

      The fundraising at the moment is not focused enough for me - I would hate to send them a check and have them pay for busses for athletic teams or something like that.  I want a guarantee that my dollars are going to save CSR.  They are not currently guaranteeing anything.

      • Just a few comments (0 / 0)

        Our schools foundation has an MOU with the district outlining exactly what the money is going to be used for, so that's one option.  (For example, the first $600,000 or so raised will go to pay for 2 science teachers, 1 librarian, 6 classroom teachers, 1 music teacher, or whatever.)

        On the partial pay, that concerns me for regular classroom teaching.  (Maybe partly because my son is in a free, public Montessori K-6 program!)  I can see it for athletics or other "extras" but for regular day time it doesn't seem fair to restrict it to families who can afford to pay.  Would they do the same for GATE, foreign languages, drama, etc.?  I don't see the Montessori as any different.  Public school should be open to everybody, and then do the fundraising on the side for those who can and choose to donate.

        • That's rather the way I see it,. (0 / 0)

          And the way many others saw it, too.  If there was a clear advantage in first grade had by those who had attended the full day kindergarten, then that's unfair to those who can't afford it.  If there is no advantage, then let's not call it "full day kindergarten", rather lets call it the "half-day daycare option".

  • Here in Kansas (0 / 0)

    Our schools have been struggling for years for funding. The court even forced the state legislature to increase school funding a few years ago.

    Ours schools lost some music programs and some athletics and instituted a fee system.  (My 8th grader's fees were $197.00 and that didn't include any sports fees.) However, if you qualify for free or reduced lunch your fees are free (or reduced).

    We also have a school foundation that raises funds.  They give awards to teachers and fund a pre-school for low income/at risk kiddos that is run by the district.

  • Things look grim (0 / 0)

    Our district is probably better off than most, but it's still quite grim. They sent pink slips to every  instructional aide (including our bilingual kindergarten aide, who is absolutely essential) and we'll have to eliminate our reading program, currently led by a credentialed reading specialist. We are losing a couple of teacher positions, (after already losing one last year), but I think we've managed to get retirements rather than layoffs.

    Basically, it will be a holding pattern until budgets improve.

    Our classes will still be 20 kids per grade, at least, because that's what we have: 20 kids, one class per grade.

    I volunteered to draft a letter encouraging parents to write Sacramento.

    Our school is very successful. We have a 70% free lunch rate, and are a California Distinguished School. We regularly get kids coming in with limited english in kindergarten and have them on an honors track by 2nd/3rd grade. If these cuts go through, it will hurt a generation of our kids, because even if the funding is restored the next year, those experienced aides, who have been in the community and the school for a decade or more in many cases, will be permanently gone, off to retirement or to other jobs.

    • March on Capitol today (0 / 0)

      The Ca. PTA is sponsoring a rally at the capitol.  Many folks are turning out from our district, Berkeley and elsewhere.  I don't know if Sacramento is anywhere near you...

      Our district is losing dozens, perhaps up to 100 jobs.  My son's teacher got a pink slip.  It's pretty devastating.  I'm working as a liaison with the school foundation to try to raise money to buy back some of that teacher time.  So far the foundation has raised around $700,000 so that's a good start, but not enough to close the gap entirely.

      • Shoot, if I'd known (0 / 0)

        I might have tried to go. Sacramento is about 3 hours from me.

        I was there two weeks ago testifying before the Assembly Education committee (not about this). That was an eyeopener. I have to find time to finish my diary about it.

        Wow, $700k. That's not much for 100 jobs, but that's real money that will make a difference.

  • Fun facts (0 / 0)

    To pass the budget as proposed by Schwartzenegger, the legislature will have to vote to suspend Proposition 98, which mandates a floor on school funding. It requires a 2/3 vote - which is the same margin required to pass any budget.

    The cut works out to around $800 per student.

    There is much good analysis at http://www.californiaschoolfinance.org/ .

  • What the hell? (0 / 0)

    What the hell is wrong with people?  How short-sighted are we as citizens, truly?  

    Here in Pennsylvania, all people ever talk about is property tax relief.  Well, guess what, there is no free lunch. You want poorly educated hopeless kids wandering around your neighborhoods or are you willing to shell out for the greater good?

    Revenue has to come from somewhere.  People -- all people, not just the parents -- have to pony up.

    So upsetting.

    • It's not even the citizens (0 / 0)

      There are parents up in arms about this all over the state, which gives me hope.

      The majority of the legislature does not want this. I think the Governator can be conviced to sign a saner budget even if it includes a tax increase.

      The problem is that we need to peel off some Republican legislators from their no-new-revenue-at-any-cost stance. Restore the vehicle license fee that they bullied everyone into rolling back - all we need is $150 per person. I'm hoping outrage in Orange County will make the difference.

    • I wonder how people would take it (0 / 0)

      if the gov of PA said, "OK, you want property tax relief, you got it. But if you're a parent, we're going to assess you a dollar a day for each child to make up the shortfall to pay for public education."

      • the geezers (0 / 0)

        would say, "okie dokie! sounds good."

        Not to pit generation against generation but that is the real problem.  That's what I mean by people who don't understand that we're all in this together.  Most seniors in PA own their homes outright, so all they are paying is taxes and upkeep.  For some, obviously, it's tough, but for the majority of the blue collar workers of my father in law's generation, they have very decent pensions and Medicare to boot.  They're really doing fine.  But they whing on endlessly about the burden of property taxes.

        Grrrr....sorry, sore spot!!!

        • Our state expanded (0 / 0)

          the Homestead exemption.  This allows seniors to exempt the first $25,000 of property valuation.  No means testing.  In states where property is valued at a higher rate, this could be raised.  It takes away a bit of the bite.

          • the town I lived in/covered (0 / 0)

            in NE Massachusetts before kicking off for destinations overseas had something similar to this - they had an exemption such that those over 70 with a certain income could halt their property taxes in exchange for a lein against them at such time as the house was sold.

          • in PA (0 / 0)

            There's something like that, I believe.

            They've been trying to figure out a different funding formula for education in PA for ages, but the fact remains that the revenue has to come from somewhere. The new casinos are supposed to help to the tune of about a billion a year, but we'll see if that actually leads to property tax cuts or not.

            Frankly, I find our tax rate very manageable.  We pay, between city and county, less than $3K a year, I think.  It does vary by municipality here, however.

            • That's about what we pay. (0 / 0)

              And it doesn't all go to public school funding.  We have a system that has been declared "unconstitutional" several times by the state supreme court.  This has been going on for over a decade.  However, while waiting for a system that all can agree upon to be developed, our governor went ahead last year and passed the exemption.  Heck, as a person who's medically disabled, I am even able to take advantage of it.  It's not much, but it does help.

              I don't think this issue is going to be resolved until we have a lot more federal funding of education.  This is another Reagan era legacy...we're rather on our own, each state, each town.  Too bad if you're exempting all big businesses from property taxes just to keep them around...all the "regular" people are somehow left to figure out how to fund education.

        • yeah... (0 / 0)

          you're probably right, sadly.

  • Proposition 13 to blame? (0 / 0)

    Maybe.

    Q: Even in good years it seems there’s always a push to raise money for local schools. Why isn’t there enough money for education?
    Many blame Proposition 13, which in 1978 rolled back property taxes and restructured future tax increases. Up until this initiative, our state operated with a budget surplus, and about 60 percent of K-12 funding came from property taxes, compared to about 21 percent today.

    But it was another seismic shift that impacted districts in more affluent areas. In 1976, the California Supreme Court ruled in the case of Serrano v. Priest that property taxes should not stay local. Instead, the court decided that these dollars should be sent up to Sacramento and redistributed based on student population.

    And yet, that distribution is not equal. To this day, some school districts receive fewer per-pupil dollars based on formulas that factored in the estimated value of local properties at the time of Proposition 13. Because IUSD was mostly agricultural back then, we were benchmarked at a lower rate based on the value of the land. These days, it’s hard to find land more expensive than in Irvine. And yet, we are considered by definition a “low wealth” district based on these antiquated formulas. Though we’ve made some gains in equalization over the years, we remain among the lower funded districts.

    • But... (0 / 0)

      I am sympathetic because we are also in a relatively low revenue-limit district, but why should the state be subsidizing those areas with higher income levels?  I'd love to see revenue limits fully equalized but it's hard to argue that lower-income communities should be subsidizing ours.  

      Wikipedia says:

      According to a 2006 estimate, the median income for a household in the city is $84,270, and the median income for a family is $103,604.

      Median family income is over $100,000 - that suggests there's money out there to be raised.

      • Annual house payment (0 / 0)

        on a median home in that area is probably around $50k, so even though the numbers look big, there's not necessarily a lot of spare cash.

        Still, more than we have, in our 70% free lunch community. :-)

    • I thought the whole point of the state (0 / 0)

      redistribution was that all districts were funded evenly on a per-pupil basis.

      Although, come to think of it, I believe our school gets a little extra than we would get per pupil as a Necessary Small School.

  • Moving out of state (0 / 0)

    We are leaving San Francisco for Austin TX. We didn't do it for better schools, but our daughter is getting a much more interesting program for middle school than is available here. It's a magnet program, so it contributes to integration, still an acceptable goal in Austin. Neither of these is necessarily linked to money, but I noted that my Austin-based friend's kids had PE and art teachers--real certified teachers assigned full time to the school--in elementary school. SFUSD hasn't been able to afford that in a long time. Increasing class size appears to be the only substantial way to cut spending, as far as I can tell.  The school budgets are already skeletal.  

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