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Drinking While Nursing

Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 05:37:01 AM PDT

Wired magazine's "Mr. Know-It-All" recently answered a letter regarding drinking and nursing. "Stressed-out mom of a newborn" has found herself craving cabernet, but she is nursing. Is it safe for her to drink?

Mr. Know-It-All's response:

Caution is certainly called for, as hooch does, indeed, seep into a kid's nutritional supply. The good news is that an occasional glass of wine shouldn't be a problem, as long as you don't have another feeding slated for a while. The effects of liquor vary widely according to a drinker's weight and metabolism, but a general rule of thumb is that the concentration of alcohol in breast milk peaks around 60 minutes after ingestion. Play it safe: Wait two to three hours per drink before nursing Junior.

You want to be extra cautious, however, if your breast monkey is less than 3 months old; the youngest livers have a tough time metabolizing alcohol. It's also prudent to avoid the more potent vintages--zinfandels tend to have a higher percentage of alcohol than Rieslings, for example. Check the label before pouring.

But what if there's a special occasion approaching and you'd like to celebrate with more than one tipple? First off, don't go crazy--breast-feeding with a hangover is as much fun as doing anything else with a hangover. More important, pump plenty of milk in advance, and be prepared to pump and dump--pump milk and throw it away--should your breasts become full before the alcohol clears your system. Milk alcohol level declines at the same rate as blood alcohol level, so whenever you're back to 100 percent sober is when you can safely nurse.

Bottom line: Enjoy a glass of wine, and don't panic. But you should probably wait to really tie one on till after your child has been weaned. Don't worry--at that age, they'll still provide plenty of reasons for you to need a stiff drink.

Makes sense. Then again, occasional -- versus regular -- alcohol consumption is probably a good idea for everyone -- not just nursing mothers.  

But, personally, I have never restrained from eating my favorite foods, including spicy or garlicky foods, or even drinking while nursing. While I did wait until my babies were older -- after the 3-month-mark sounds about right -- to have a very occasional glass of wine, I did not see a correlation between what I was eating or drinking and their behavior. Plus, I thought being a parent was hard enough that restricting my diet seemed rather cruel. I needed the calories!

For the record, I am in the process of weaning Eli because DH and I have a trip scheduled next month. It's only for a few days and my MIL will watch the kids. But it will be my first overnight stay without Eli.

She is 11 months old today. I am nursing her once every couple days and supplementing with formula. I actually feel good about it -- not depressed like I did with Ari. She was nursed two more months than Ari, and I am simply relieved to have survived the first year of babyhood. Whew!

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  • Spicy food? (0 / 0)

    Are you supposed to avoid that?  Or just if the kid is having issues?  Jeez, without Thai food, Indian food and New Mexican green chile, I wouldn't eat much at all.

    • I know, right? (0 / 0)

      that is ALL i eat!

    • That's a myth (0 / 0)

      I mean... think about the mothers who live in countries where spicy food is the the norm.  Do all their kids have colic?  So, unless you see a reaction from your nursing baby, spicy food's okay.

      "We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dream..."

      by 1plain1peanut on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 06:54:34 AM PDT

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    • Only once (0 / 0)

      did we have a bad reaction to what I ate - we ordered pizza from a new place, and Seth was miserable for hours after nursing.  I think they put anchovies in the sauce, because my mom thought she tasted it.  Anyway, we never ordered from there again - to this day (he's 8 and a half), I think of that place as the place that made Seth sick LOL

      • bad poop (0 / 0)

        Lily would get diarrhea if I wound up eating some foods, but since my body is generally Not Fond of spice, it wasn't surprising.

        What I DID find to be hilarious was once I ate the most delicious Polish Sausage and then BFed Lily. An hour later, I'm changing her diaper and it smells JUST LIKE POLISH SAUSAGE. Ugh, I had to stay away from it because the correlation was just too gross. :)

  • Hard to believe (0 / 0)

    It's hard to believe that Eli is nearly a year old!  Amazing.  Kudos to you for a successful run of nursing.  It is nice to get the boobs back, though, isn't it?

    I never restricted what I ate or drank either.  I had a friend who did an elimination diet, convinced her child wasn't sleeping because of allergies or something, but he's eight years old now and he still isn't much of a sleeper!  Bless her heart for the Herculean effort of that elimination diet -- it sucked!!!

  • Oh, and.... (0 / 0)

    why are you up so early?  Miss Eli not in a sleeping mood this morning?

  • When I was nursing my babes (0 / 0)

    and if I had alcohol, I would pump and dump the milk.  The baby would get a bottle of pumped milk that was from the "before drink" pumping.

    But this didn't happen much at all, my babies were always anti-bottle.  They liked getting their food from the source.  

    I haven't nursed anyone since 2002, though, so conventional wisdom has changed since then.  With baby-related advice, 5-10 years makes a big difference.  When DS was born in 1998, side sleepers were all the rage but by the time DD was born in 2001, back sleeping was the norm.

    DD had reflux issues, so I did the elimination thing.  Not fun.  I wasn't drinking much of anything during that time, especially cow's milk.   I would have turned down wine without hesitation.

    • My daughter (0 / 0)

      had reflux like symptoms and basically emptied her stomach after every feeding soon after birth.  I was an LLL Leader at the time, and thought eliminating diary would fix it.  No dice.  Then, my co-Leaders were telling me oversupply.  I tried things such as one breast per feeding and that still didn't fix it.  I ended up going to a lactation consultant and after we did electro-dermal allergy screening, we found out she was allergic to diary, wheat, corn, soy, and melon.  I did the elimination diet, which was a PIA, but it worked.  She also had me add probiotics and enzymes to my diet.  

      I slowly added those things back my diet when she was about a year.  If I saw the symptoms return, I backed off.  

      While I was on the diet, I was never thinner!  

      "We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dream..."

      by 1plain1peanut on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 07:09:32 AM PDT

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  • 11 months already? (0 / 0)

    I truly can't believe it. Where did this year go?

    I hear you on the insomnia.  One little peep and it seems like I can't go back to sleep for 2 hours. I wish I had a solution.

    I'm glad you're feeling good about the weaning, and have a trip to look forward to!!

  • wine (0 / 0)

    I like wine, and drank it while nursing.  That said, I didn't even feel like drinking during the first 6 weeks or so.  Just too tired.  I bet it was around 3 months when I had my first glass of wine, but I can't remember exactly.  I do enjoy a glass of wine with dinner.

    Alcohol actually peaks in breastmilk about 90 minutes after you drink it.  Knowing that, I could plan when my kids nursed.  

    I knew that Eli was almost one, because I think we share the same birthday... April 7, right?

    "We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dream..."

    by 1plain1peanut on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 07:00:26 AM PDT

    • Yup... (0 / 0)

      She actually turned 11 months yesterday. She will be a  year old on April 7. I have to say, the time seemed to have gone by faster than with Ari. Wow!

      • I can't belive it's (0 / 0)

        been almost a year since I peeked in on you in the hospital!  I remember the darkened hospital room and my hoping that I was entering the right room but having never met you, not sure at the time if you were the Elisa I was looking for! You were busy being questioned by a nurse for some forms she needed to fill out....and little Eli was only a day or so old!  Wow.  A YEAR.  It doesn't seem possible.

        Hope your trip goes well Elisa.  

        By the way, what book is Markos working on?  I"ve been meaning to ask you -- maybe you've already posted some info about it, but I missed it if you did.

        • Hi Karen! (0 / 0)

          Yes, Eli looks so different too with two long pigtails. In spanish we call them "cat tails." I will have to post pictures soon...

          Markos is writing a modern, digital take on Saul Linsky's "Rules for Radicals" called "Taking on the system." It comes out on Sept. 2. Because he just finished it, I haven't even read it. I am looking forward to it!

          • Impressive! (0 / 0)

            How fantastic and exciting for you both.  Will he be going on a book tour in the fall?
            When do you get a chance to read it?

            I'll look forward to the updated pictures of Eli and the new book coming out soon!  You two really PRODUCE!  :>)

  • i think it's ok to drink and nurse (0 / 0)

    i never pumped and dumped

    i didn't drink at all when i was pregnant, though

    it was explained to me that drinking while you're pregnant is so bad because the baby shares your bloodstream while you're pregnant

    if you drink, there's much less alcohol in your breastmilk vs in your blood

    about weaning-

    when i weaned my lst one i put oversized band aids on my nipples and said they were broken

    once i forgot we were weaning and i reflexively let helen try to nurse and she saw the bandaid and reminded my boobies were broken.

    • The bandaids... (0 / 0)

      on the broken boobs. So funny!

      Yes, to my chagrin, Eli still wants the boob. But so far, I've been able to distract her with cheese puffs and the bottle. She likes to be a big girl and hold it.

  • i never pumped and dumped (0 / 0)

    once i was done being pregnant with both of my kids, i really didn't want to worry about it anymore. that said, i'm not much of a drinker - usually one drink is it for me even if i'm out with friends, although sometimes two, never more than that. i also almost never drink before the kids go to bed, so there would always be a few hours between the time i drank and the next time i nursed. honestly i'm not at all worried about whether there's a small amount of alcohol in my milk.

    good luck weaning elisa! i've started to think about weaning DS#2. he's a little over a year old. i nursed DS#1 for over 18 months, but this time around i'm feeling more eager to have my body back. also, i'm not sure how to do it. with DS#1 we were down to once a day in the morning and i explained to him that my milk was going away. with DS#2, he doesn't understand enough for me to talk to him about it.

  • Beer for nursing (0 / 0)

    Several people from older generations have sworn to me that beer helps increase the milk supply.  If you say so!  I drink one beer most nights after DS goes to bed.  Maybe it's just coincidence, or maybe it's because I am more relaxed after a beer, but it really does seem to help.  He usually sleeps a good 10-12 hours through the night, so I don't really worry about him getting any of the alcohol, although I guess he did a little when he was waking up more.  But even so, I figured amount of alcohol, by the time it gets to him is pretty minute.  

    As for sleeping through the night, I found with both my kids that putting them in their own rooms made all the difference.  I had #2 in my room until we moved into our new house, and he immediately slept through the night.  I guess we were bothering each other.  

    • my midwife and lactation consultant recommended (0 / 0)

      Guinness! I like a half of draught Guinness when it's colder weather, so it was great to have a half for medicinal purposes! ;-)

      That said, I agree with those above that I just didn't feel like drinking alcohol until Jess was around 3 months old. Too tired all the time!

  • I would never drink and nurse (0 / 0)

    babies flail their arms a lot and they might spill my drink.  

    (you knew I was going to say it...)

    "Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight. Gotta kick at the darkness til it bleeds daylight"

    by lonestar canuck on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 01:14:22 PM PDT

  • Here's what breastfeeding guru (0 / 0)

    Dr. Jack Newman has to say about alcohol and breastfeeding:

    "Reasonable alcohol intake should not be discouraged at all. As is the case with most drugs, very little alcohol comes out in the milk. The mother can take some alcohol and continue breastfeeding as she normally does. Prohibiting alcohol is another way we make life unnecessarily restrictive for nursing mothers."

    Amen.  Bottoms up ladies!

    If you're ready to wean great, but if you feel that you have to wean because of your upcoming trip, you don't have to.  I went to China for 3 weeks when my DD was a year and a half.  I pumped while I was away to keep my supply up, and when I got home she went right back to the boob without missing a beat.

  • Congrats! (0 / 0)

    I am tipping my hat to you for breastfeeding for so long!

    And I can't believe Eli is almost one. Time flies, doesn't it?

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