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Should Teenagers Get Family Leave?

Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 08:10:03 AM PDT

To that question, I say "yes." Regardless of your age, if you have a child you should receive family leave like any other American. In my utopia, that leave would be paid.

But some irked tax payers in the city of Denver would beg to differ. As Brain, Child magazine recently pointed out in its news briefs, there was a case back in January, in which pregnant Denver high school students requested four weeks leave following the birth of their babies. They do not want to be counted as "absent" and want the right to make up their schoolwork. A couple high school counselors approached the school board, but as far as I know, the district has yet to make a decision.

However, according to this Denver Post article, it sounds like it favored changing its policy to accommodate the pregnant teens.

East High School administrators could not be reached for comment over the winter break, but district officials say they are reviewing the policy on absences to make it "friendlier" to new moms, said DPS spokesman Alex Sanchez.

Kayla Lewis, who is five months pregnant and a senior at East, requested that the board establish maternity leave for students at a Dec. 20 public hearing.

"After you have the baby, your body needs time to heal," the 18-year-old said...

School-board member Michelle Moss was baffled that schools were giving girls unexcused absences after birth.

"It's critical that these young women have a chance to bond with their babies," Moss said. "Maybe we do need a policy. Clearly, as a district, we have to look at what is going on with our young women. We've got to look at the birth-control issues and teen pregnancy and how we best help them deal with it and still graduate."

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Denver, BTW, has one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the state, according to the Post. "Of every 1,000 girls ages 15 to 17, 54.5 will become pregnant in the city, compared with 24.3 throughout Colorado, according to state health statistics," the article stated.

Not surprisingly, if you scroll down in the article, some readers blasted the proposed measure.

The last thing these girls need is a 4 week vacation from school to "bond" with their baby! If their priorities were more focused on school to begin with, they would not be in this situation. What to do.

DPS already uses teachers to go to homebound students; sounds like these girls are perfect candidates for the homebound student program. Additionally DPS needs to get childcare in the schools pronto for these girls. Any program should also involve the "dads". Clearly they must not be stepping up to help with the "bonding" or other responsibilities of raising a baby or these girls would not be asking for relief!

Finally, whoever is in charge of DPS' program to reduce teen pregnancies needs to be held accountable and fired - they clearly are failing in their task. Children raising children is a serious issue with long-term consequences - most all bad.
Posted by Marie Trujillo (aka Proud Blue Star Mom)
at 7:53 AM on Monday Jan 7

It sounds like becoming pregnant while in a Denver high school is roundly accepted instead of being discouraged.

So again KA CHING KA CHING.

Glad I'm not a Denver taxpayer.
Posted by B (aka Byaks)
at 7:54 AM on Monday Jan 7

Taxpayers pay for the school. Students can request, but society need not cave. Students who become pregnant and wish time to recover from delivery and bond with a baby must withdraw as a full time student for a semester or a term to concentrate on caring for themselves and providing for the infant. One cannot properly or fairly do both. The school, other students and staff ought not be in any way penalized; nor should the child or the student's family be inconvenienced. Women who choose to be mothers must realize that they--not society--must accept responsability for that life. And what about the father? Shall we permit bonding time?
Posted by Janice Taylor (aka Colorado Cookie)
at 8:31 AM on Monday Jan 7

Of course, there were many comments supportive of the girls; that they deserve our compassion and not ridicule. Also, I do not buy into the theory by making it more difficult for them to graduate this will somehow curb teenage pregnancy. What do you think, MotherTalkers?

In related news, one in four American girls has a sexually transmitted disease, according to the Associated Press.

A virus that causes cervical cancer is by far the most common sexually transmitted infection in teen girls aged 14 to 19, while the highest overall prevalence is among black girls — nearly half the blacks studied had at least one STD. That rate compared with 20 percent among both whites and Mexican-American teens, the study from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found.

About half of the girls acknowledged ever having sex; among them, the rate was 40 percent. While some teens define sex as only intercourse, other types of intimate behavior including oral sex can spread some infections.

I know we have discussed this before, but when I read such scary information, I feel like we need a refresher. How do you convince children that waiting to have sex and practicing safe sex is the way to go?

Tags: teenage pregnancy, teenagers, family leave (all tags)

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  • Schools should be more flexible period (0 / 0)

    I think any situation where a student makes up the work and keeps up with the class should be tolerated, AND, I think the states, in situations where a student is on school-supervised independent study, should maintain their daily attendance payment for that student.

    In most schools, if you miss more than X days (where x is something like 17), for any reason, you will fail all your classes, even if you are keeping up and doing A level work.

    (Interestingly, it's OK to miss more than X days of, say, your Algebra class, if you're missing them to play on a school sports team with a lot of away games.)

    People put these rules in because they think kids can't learn outside of school, but some kids can and do. They think that that X day rule will keep kids in school - but it also kicks them out, because if you're going to fail no matter what, why keep going?

    People get weird about babies and bonding and whatever, probably because there's a certain "YOU DESERVE TO WRECK YOUR LIFE FOREVER" aspect of sexuality in our society. But the fact is, if any student has major surgery or a major health incident during the school year, they're going to miss school. Not all students who give birth will need to miss much school, but those that do should be welcomed back, with the opportunity to make up their missed work.

  • It's a medical event (0 / 0)

    I don't see the difference between recovering from childbirth and recovering from surgery.  I've had vaginal childbirths and even with my last one where I didn't have a single stitch I was not to lift anything heavier than the child for 4-6 weeks.  I don't think a month or two of leave where they are not penalized is unreasonable.

    • My backpack in high school (0 / 0)

      was well over the weight limit. Heck, my biology book alone weighed as much as an infant. And it had to go home every night and be in school every day.

      • yeah, no kidding (0 / 0)

        I can't remember the number of times my LL Bean backpack straps ripped off... I was always hauling out the sewing machine to reinforce the straps. Did we perhaps have the same bio text!? The one with the elephants on the front?

  • Oooh (0 / 0)

    The first sentence in "Glad I'm not a Denver Taxpayer"'s letter boiled my blood almost to the point of tears.  I couldn't read any more after that so I hope I'm not being redundant or too far off topic.

    It enrages me to see that "citizens" feel the need to brand a scarlet letter on teen parents (or, more specifically, moms--I rarely see this kind of hate directed toward teen dads, despite the fact that there is one for every teen mom).  A couple of years ago I noticed that the first baby of the year was born to teen parents.  I knew people would complain that they were somehow being rewarded.  I was right.  This, despite the fact that the first baby of the year is the first baby or the year--it's black and white.  This, despite the fact that these tend to be the same people who claim to believe that every little life is a miracle.  

    Besides that, why shouldn't teens have family leave for other reasons, too?  Aren't teens family members?

    • Family leave (0 / 0)

      yeah, good point.  Illnesses in the family and stuff, maybe it would be useful for that.  Or maybe whatever program already handles that would work for this.  

    • What's funny is (0 / 0)

      if the girl doesn't go to school, "Denver Taxpayer" should be pleased to know that she isn't getting her tax dollars.

      And yes - what about a teen who has a close family member having a medical crisis? "No, you can't go with your dad, you have to stay here and worry."?

      • the big picture irony (0 / 0)

        teenage mother doesn't get support to finish her education. Can't get a job that supports her child. Goes on welfare, medicaid for her kids, WIC, whatever Denver offers in the way of financial assistance. Now there's an effective use of tax dollars, no? Personally, I'd rather invest my tax dollars on giving the proper support to teenaged parents and see them try to fulfil their dreams than say, "no, you've been bad. No education for you. You only deserve welfare."

        And the Republicans are the party of family values?!

        (NB, not that I'm criticizing welfare, unemployment or medicaid. Quite the contrary. But given the choice of assisting someone to gain better skills and education and achieving an outcome that doesn't necessitate welfare, and condemning someone to poverty? Proactive support wins every time!)

  • I thought"family leave" (0 / 0)

    was for all sorts of family situations, like Erin! I'd say yes, within reason. It can't be easy to focus on tests and grades if a family member is in critical shape.

    Needless to say, I think applied FMLA to teenage girls is a good idea. Anything that can make it easier for teen moms to a.) get on with the business of being mothers and b.) keep up with their education has got to be a good idea IMHO!

  • I don't know what women are being told (0 / 0)

    these days, but back when I had my babies, we were told to really take it easy for these first six weeks and to not overly push ourselves to get back to work or other routine activities...you know, the old "just-because-you-might-feel-better-doesn't-mean-you're-back-to normal-yet" advice.  Between recovering from a pregnancy and the absolute sleep deprivation one can have during those first weeks, I don't see how one can make the case to require these young women to be physically present in class everyday.

    Ofcourse, I've seen people flip out over kids needing medical leave for any reason.  One of my good friends was a home instruction teacher here in our district until a few years ago.  She taught a lot of kids with cystic fibrosis, severe asthma, etc., who would routinely be pulled from class during the winter months to avoid infection.  Do you know how prejudiced these kids' home schools would be against them?  Just vindictive by not allowing them to be listed on the honor roll or attend any school function throughout the year.  

    • That's still good advice (0 / 0)

      It's tough with our culture now.  Since having my last two babies it seems like every time I turn on the TV, they're talking about post baby workout boot-camps and how Heidi Klum lost her baby weight within 6 weeks of giving birth.  Cookie magazine even had something about losing baby weight immediately recently.

      By the way, my aunt had an issue with not letting her body recover after surgery.  She had laproscopic surgery to remove her appendix or gall bladder or something.  She felt fine after two weeks, overdid it, and ended up needing to take more time off in the longrun.

      Why can't people accept that bodies need to heal? This has to be related to our work-ethic in this culture and lack of time off for any reason.

  • This is a little misleading... (0 / 0)

    There was a lot of hype locally when this story hit (we are 1.5 hours south of Denver).  The local media was all over the school where I work (because we have the only "parenting program" in the district, wanting to know what our district's policy was... and it was the topic of the morning radio shows (most callers were as ugly as the posts above).  

    When the student and counselor approached the school board in Denver, the board was receptive.  However, in looking into how schools handled the situation already, they decided they didn't need to create a special policy.  When a student gives birth (or goes on bed-rest) she gets a doctor's note and the absences are excused and she is able to make up any missed work - just as she would be excused for any other medical condition.  The teen moms I work with routinely, without a problem, get a 6 week letter from the doctors... which is the age at which their babies are able to enter childcare. Many of them actually want to come back sooner (some do) and many of them work from home while they are out.  Some of our youngest girls or most at-risk, get home-bound tutors.  

    I don't know exactly how Denver Public Schools handles the home-bound tutor issue (it's pretty expensive to provide HBT) or how difficult it is to actually make up work missed over a 6 week period (it's fairly easy at our school because most classes are self paced).  Ultimately what the DPS board decided was that teen parents were already protected under Title IX, but many teachers and school administrators didn't fully understand Title IX protections. Instead of creating a new blanket policy regarding maternity leave, they decided to create guidelines for school's consistent with Title IX - Which I think is the right approach because it allows schools to individualize the accommodations they make for pregnant and parenting teens.

  • When will we learn (0 / 0)

    as a society that scolding and wagging our fingers at teens who "mess-up" won't fix the problem.  We've been trying to guilt teens out of having sex my entire life by telling them its bad, dangerous, blah, blah.  The social stereotypes of being pregnant and a teenager haven't stopped - or even dramatically slowed - the pregnancy rate in this country.

    So when will we learn this lesson and instead start making constructive attempts to help these teens turn a new page. I applaud this student for recognizing that she needs to bond with her child - not every teen mother makes that connection.  We should support a bonding opportunity for EVERY new mother regardless of age.  There is nothing more important than creating that bond when it comes to establishing the pattern necessary to properly provide for and love a child.

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