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Settling for Mr. Good-Enough

Thu Feb 14, 2008 at 11:39:28 PM PDT

Anyone else see this article in  Atlantic Monthly this month?  In it, the author makes the argument for "settling" in order to get married.  Parts of the article sound more tongue-in-cheek than real

And all I can say is, if you say you’re not worried, either you’re in denial or you’re lying. In fact, take a good look in the mirror and try to convince yourself that you’re not worried, because you’ll see how silly your face looks when you’re being disingenuous.

 But the overall theme is provacative - can an over-romatic view of love and marriage prevent us from finding life partners?

I've been struggling about if, and how, to blog about this.  Of course, the initial premise of the article - that this is a women's concern and not men, is offensive and off-putting.  And, it seems like you're selling yourself, and your partner, short by assuming that either, or both, of you are "settling".  And, of course, the additional premise that it's only in monogamous hetero relationships that women can be happy is just too silly.

But, all that aside, the article had some interesting points.

while settling seems like an enormous act of resignation when you’re looking at it from the vantage point of a single person, once you take the plunge and do it, you’ll probably be relatively content. It sounds obvious now, but I didn’t fully appreciate back then that what makes for a good marriage isn’t necessarily what makes for a good romantic relationship. Once you’re married, it’s not about whom you want to go on vacation with; it’s about whom you want to run a household with. Marriage isn’t a passion-fest; it’s more like a partnership formed to run a very small, mundane, and often boring nonprofit business. And I mean this in a good way.

She makes the argument that the guy with whom you have "sparks" and great vacations, may not be the ideal guy to go through life's journey with.

What I long for in a marriage is that sense of having a partner in crime. Someone who knows your day-to-day trivia. Someone who both calls you on your bullshit and puts up with your quirks

And touches on the idea of compromise, more appealing than "settling"

All marriages, of course, involve compromise, but where’s the cutoff? Where’s the line between compromising and settling, and at what age does that line seem to fade away? Choosing to spend your life with a guy who doesn’t delight in the small things in life might be considered settling at 30, but not at 35. By 40, if you get a cold shiver down your spine at the thought of embracing a certain guy, but you enjoy his company more than anyone else’s, is that settling or making an adult compromise?

Towards the end, she touches on something I've thought about.  Teenagers and young adults have this "dream" version of marriage and love and their life partner.  But the dream is most likely not 100% attainable. Although the word 'settle' has negative conontations - being realistic about your aims in life has appeal.

In the end, though, this article bugged me - her final thoughts are 1) settling is a women's concern and 2) you're not getting any younger - the tried and true high anxiety areas for most women - it's the lazy way out - playing on women's fears.  And, maybe, she misses the chance to talk honestly and realistically about long-term committed relationships.

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  • I think men do it, too (0 / 0)

    I really believe my brother & DH's best friend were the kind of guys who thought that when they finished college, got established in their careers, were settled in the cities they wanted to live in, saw many of their friends getting married, the next step was their own marriage.  They found a woman who fit certain broad characteristics and decided that was the wife for them.  

    My SIL and DH's best friend's wife are both attractive, intelligent, grounded women. But I really can't see what's special or different about them compared to the other women these men dated.  It was like they just decided it was time, so the next acceptable woman was the choice. With most of my friends, I can clearly see why they are good fits with their partners. But with these two couples in particular, I can't see what either side found really exceptional about the other.  I think they're happy, but I'm not sure what they have in common.  

    Here's another thought: both of these men are conservative, and it seems to me that conservatives really like abiding by the whole "life plan" thing...needing to have a certain kind of career & certain kind of family by a certain point in their life, and no deviation from this is acceptable.  My Republican BIL is in a stressful, dysfunctional marriage, but he will never divorce because that's just not what good family-values men do.  It's not in the plan.  Is that a skewed perspective for me, or have others of you noticed some of this?

    • If anything, I think it's more a guy thing (0 / 0)

      Ever noticed how men have the ability to accept the friends assigned to them by circumstance?  Freshman dorm-mates may not even like each other, and yet somehow end up bonded for life.

      Remember, it's the princess who dreams of the shining knight coming along to make her life perfect, and she often must determine which suitor is best.  You never find the prince hoping for a better princess.  The prince just shows up knowing a princess is available; if he wins the king's daughter he lives happily ever after.  

      • Wouldn't that be a great story? (0 / 0)

        I love it...the prince looks for a better princess!  Maybe the anti-princess?

        • Not exactly the story you imagined, (0 / 0)

          But "The Paper Bag Princess" is the best anti-princess story ever!!

          Here's a summary from the Amazon web page

          In a world obsessed with all things Princess this book should be very well received and appreciated by girls everywhere. A terrific story about the feisty, intelligent Princess Elizabeth who treks to save her prince from the nasty dragon only to be received with no appreciation but judgment, The Paper Bag Princess shows girls that they should be respected and appreciated for their inner beauty and strengths including determination, courage, heart and wit and not solely on their outward appearance. This book should be in every girl's library right in the middle of all her fairytale princess books. A little dose of reality is good because a girl needs to know early in life that not all relationships are worth staying in. A woman should give and receive love, respect and appreciation in order for a healthy, satisfying relationship to exist. Remember, as someone once said, "You get what you settle for." Bravo, Munsch!

          • Thanks for the link (0 / 0)

            I've heard of this story but didn't know much about it.  It reminds me of a quote I read from one of my favorite authors, Maeve Binchy.  She said that with her female characters, she doesn't try to turn ugly ducklings into beautiful swans; she wants them to turn into confident ducks.

  • I totally read this article (0 / 0)

    and wondered when it was going to pop up here! Good job, Sue!

    I had similarly ambivalent feelings about the article. I think there's a huge amount of value in being with a "partner in crime". It's true that some of the initial sparks and most of that heady, obsessive infatuation of the early part of our relationship is long gone, but what you get in exchange is great, I think. Yes, having that ideal of someone who challenges you, entrances you, sweeps you off your feet is enthralling and fun, but there's such a sublime feeling that comes from the confidence and intimacy of the daily routine.

    But, yeah, I didn't like this "settling" thing. I think she uses the wrong word, because it has this nasty connotation; I think when you say settle, it says you're selling yourself out and selling your intended partner short. As if, "hey, if circumstances were better I'd never do this to myself with someone like you, but, eeeeh, things aren't getting any better, so you'll do." Yuck.

    • Agreed (0 / 0)

      Its more about allowing a relationship to grow beyond a chemical reaction into something more (a lifelong partnership) rather than settling for something less.

      Mother wannabe, ETA Spring 09 if biology allows.

      by faedrake on Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 09:08:54 AM PDT

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    • settling down seems more like it (0 / 0)

      I certainly didn't settle for my husband, but we're definitely now in more of a comfortable, pleasant relationship than a passionate, heart-thumping affair.  I'm totally fine with that.  We've "settled down" and are living the happily married life with kids.  I wouldn't want anything different right now.

      And we got married in our early 20s, so definitely not an age when either of us would be settling for just whoever happened to be there.

      • having said that (0 / 0)

        and made the whole argument for the pleasures of a stable life, it's true that I still get the butterflies in the stomach with DH! I'll still see him from across a room or whatever and go, "damn, he's fine! I've pulled a good one!" I know he feels the same, too.

  • Missed the point? (0 / 0)

    What ISN'T romantic about this:

    What I long for in a marriage is that sense of having a partner in crime. Someone who knows your day-to-day trivia. Someone who both calls you on your bullshit and puts up with your quirks

    I think it's not about "settling". That word is pejorative, it indicates that you've chosen something "less than" what you wanted to choose. Choosing a husband who does the above isn't settling. It's getting fricking lucky!

    So yes, Sue, I feel the same way you do!

  • Isn't it a biological fact (0 / 0)

    that romantic feelings, butterflies and whatever, fade over time? No matter how infatuated you were with your partner to begin with, after 1200 or so wake-ups to rank morning breath, the luster is going to fade, and that's the way it is. So is it really "settling" to choose a mate with whom you have long-term compatibility-- or is it just the smart, grown-up thing to do?

    Settling is a dumb way to put it. It's really more like outgrowing your teenage visions of love and realizing what's important.

    • absolutely (0 / 0)

      settling is a very bad word to use here. i remember deciding i wanted to marry my husband when i realized that around him i just felt... calm. he evened me out, and our strengths and weaknesses make up for the other one's. we should all be so lucky.

      if you wobba cypress trees then I will wobba you

      by thais on Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 07:48:38 AM PDT

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  • This one came up on Street Prophets, (0 / 0)

    so I'll refer you to what was said there (for those who don't know, Sister Quarterstaff is my wife). And y'all should look at the Sinfest cartoon linked to because it's funny.

    Anyway, yes, I think "settling" is not the right word, but in many ways she's right. I've certainly been in the swept off your feet, all consuming, hormone fuelled relationships (well, at least one relationship). Amazing, but in the end being swept off your feet is not a positive thing. I lost all perspective, disappeared off my friends' radar, it's just that really, if you're "lucky" enough to get one of those amazing relationships, I think when you come out the other end you realise it's not the stuff that a long term life is made of. In a lot of ways, I chose Sister Q, and she chose me. I'm not so naive to believe that she's the only one I could have been happy with, but we are happy, we click on an intellectual level, and that the moment we step through the door the hormones don't take over is frankly, a positive. The relationship I had like that, it was fun while it lasted, but I don't ever want a relationship like that again.
    I think that's what this article is mostly advocating against. This belief that there's a "one." I don't think there is, I think there's a conscious decision to settle down. Now where your threshold for who you settle down with is, that'll vary person to person, but I do agree that this belief that someone will sweep us off our feet, be perfect, and everything we want is misguided and destructive and may even encourage those who find someone they feel that way about to make a bad choice, because they don't see the long view in how that relationship may turn out.

    "You're never more alone than when you're alone in a crowd."

    by Expat Briton on Fri Feb 15, 2008 at 08:30:27 AM PDT

  • We "settled", (0 / 0)

    although I hate that term.  I find nothing negative or "less than" about my choice to marry my husband.

    Given those ideas about butterflies and fireworks, we were intially afraid that something was wrong with us.  "I like you - you like me, but you don't give me that feeling in the pit of my stomach so we can't be in love, right?"  Wrong.  After both of us being in hormone-laden, disfunctional relationships, we were able to recognize something different and worth exploring in each other.

    And I'm so glad we did.  Because the butterflies came.  I do have my partner in crime and don't regret that we chose to settle down and have a life together.

  • You know it's time to settle when... (0 / 0)

    ... you notice that all the men you date are exactly the same type.

    I think that when reading this article it's important to remember that the author of the article did not follow her own advice to "settle" but instead decided to use a sperm donor to have a child.

    Then suddenly she noticed that women who married imperfect mates are doing OK.  

    So, the woman who never married wonders, how did those other women decide to marry the particular guy they did and not hold out for someone better?

    Well, the first time I met my husband I remember thinking, "This is exatly the type of guy I would have fallen in love with when I was younger."   And the logical extension of that thought turned out to be, "I'm eventually going to end up with some variation on this type of guy anyhow, so why go to the trouble of more dating?"

    I don't consider it settling so much as (finally) developing some self awareness.  

    --AmyB

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