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Termite Treatment?

Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 09:17:01 AM PDT

After months of looking and four failed attempts, we have finally found a house to buy.  We had the inspection done this morning, and the main problem found was termite damage to the garage, which is attached to the house by a breezeway.  The inspector recommended tenting the whole house, which means the lender will require that we do that.

DH wanted me to feel comfortable with the idea of fumigating the entire house with chemicals a few days before we move our babies and animals in, so I am trying to quickly do some research about the products they use.  Since MTers seem to be savy on things like this, I wanted to see if anyone can provide some input.  They would use Vikane and chloropicrin, which both sound awful.  But then so does having bugs eating our house from around us.

Has anyone dealt with this?  Does anyone know anything about these chemicals?  Any input would be most appreciated.

Tags: house, termites, fumigate, chemicals (all tags)

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  • Ugh (0 / 0)

    Ugh.  Termites.  We saw so many houses on our househunt with some termite damage.  Pesky devils.

    Are they fumigating the house or the garage? Or both.

    Not sure where you live, but here I've never heard of a fumigation here.  People usually treat by injecting chemicals into the soil in a perimeter around the house making what they call a chemical barrier.  Then they keep doing this every year or something like that. Is that an option instead of the fumigation?

    The good news is that if they fumigate, your stuff won't be in there yet.  

    I don't know how safe the chemicals are.  I assume, not very, in direct contact, since they kill things.  But, the idea of safe fumigating is that you aren't there, and the gas (and bugs) are gone before you get back.

    If I had to do it, I would say the longer you can stay out and let it air out post-treatment the better.  Good luck.

  • We had termites. (0 / 0)

    We heard that the soil injection does not work because it allows colonies to continue to live inside of the perimeter.  Never heard of tenting.  Seems like it would not work on colonies outside of the house and also the ones under ground.  We use sentricon--baiting stations placed around the perimeter of the house.  Termites come in eat the bait and take it back to the colony.  The chemical --or hormone or whatever it is--does not allow the termites to shed their extoskeletons and they die. It has solved our termite problem and seems relatively non-toxic to humans.  We live in suburban NYC.

  • Tenting (0 / 0)

    The house is in Houston, which basically a paved swamp.  Bugs are part of life here (you should see our cockroaches!), and it is not uncommon to see houses tented occasionally.  

    The house has been treated in the ground, but the damage was caused by flying termites, which is why they recommend the tenting/fumigation.  It actually won't prevent future infestation, but it will kill anything currently living in there.

    According to the termite folks, the chemmicals clear out of the air in about an hour, but they continue to air it out for a lot longer than that.  We are scheduled to move in a week from Saturday, so we thought if we could get it done in the next few days that would give us a fair amount of time to make sure it is good and aired out.

    Ugh.  There is always something.

    • geography (0 / 0)

      I'm sure there are geographical differences on how they can be treated, that makes sense.  I've never seen a house tented here, but it's probably because our termites burrow through the ground or something.

      Don't worry.  Termites are so common and as you said, you've seen tents around so clearly this is a common thing where you are.

      Air it out real good! And hey, be glad your stuff isn't in there yet.

  • Treated just a couple of yers ago (0 / 0)

    We had to have our house retreated.  We didn't have any active infestations, so I'm not sure if they treat differently for that or not.  We didn't fumigate; they drilled holes around the entire perimeter of the house, about a foot up from the foundation, and put the treatment in there.  It really wasn't any big deal at all... the only annoyance was the "new cement" circles around the house until it aged enough and blended in.  I'll take that over termites any day!  Ours doesn't get repeated, unless there is a problem, and our termite contract covers the re-treatment if that happens.  They just come out once a year to inspect.

  • orange oil? (0 / 0)

    This is way out of left field but here in SoCal there is a service that claims orange oil is a safe and totally effective way to exterminate termites.

    Don't have any first-hand experience, but  here's a website to peruse.

    Good luck!

    • Helpful (0 / 0)

      Doesn't look like orange oil is sufficient for our needs, because we need all over fumigation and orange oil can only be used to treat specific areas of known infestation. But that company, which seems at least sympathetic to the concern of lots of chemicals, also does fumigation and uses the Vikane product, so at least that gives me a little more to go by.  Thanks for the site!

      • Orange oil (0 / 0)

        There was an accident at my workplace and we all had to undergo extensive OSHA training (best thing ever!!)  Our industrial hygenist (person who is expert on workplace safety) said orange oil is just a synthesis of the natural pesticides created by the orange to protect itself.  She said it is better to clean paint off our hands with turpentine than with the orange cleaner. (She doesn't advocate that either--wanted us to wear gloves.)

  • Material Safety Data Sheets (0 / 0)

    Safe is a relative term when used in conjunction with poisons.Length of exposure and concetration are probably the most important factors.
    I would let it air as much as possible and wipe down all reachable surfaces with good oll hot soapy water to remove surface residue.

    However, statistics on vehicle related deaths dont stop us from driving.

    http://ptcl.chem.ox.ac.uk/...

    http://www.drywoodtermitecontrol.com...

  • Borax (0 / 0)

    From this article:

    If you are chemically sensitive, we suggest you only try termite predators, e.g., nematodes and/or predator mites, baits, antibiotics, salts, fans, food-grade DE, dehumidifiers, rain gutters, proper grading, ventilation, moisture barriers, sand barriers and/or mechanical alteration, then if you still have any pockets of resistance the only natural chemical/pesticide we recommend that you use is called sodium borate; it is a naturally occurring material that has trace amounts of arsenic; TIM-BOR powder has no added inert ingredients; BORA-CARE liquid also contains ethylene glycol and water; IMPEL RODS are solid borate fungicide rods. If you can not find them, spray all unfinished sole plates, sill boxes and infested wood with 1½ cups of borax per gallon of hot water 3 times to the point or run-off, letting the wood dry between each spraying. In addition, we also recommend you use other non-toxic controls such as exclusion, mechanical alteration, temperature controls, biological controls, sanitation and other integrated pest management techniques. We are firmly committed to your safety and we will always attempt to help you permanently control your pest problems with the least amount of toxin possible! ALWAYS FOLLOW THE LABEL DIRECTIONS AND REMEMBER BORAX AND/OR BORON PRODUCTS WILL NOT PENETRATE FINISHED WOOD!

    http://www.thebestcontrol.com/...

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