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Finger Length: A real index, or party trick?

Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 12:38:03 PM PDT

Last year I was at an intense conference for a few days.  Most evenings, I just wanted to go back to my hotel room and veg while I processed a lot of new information.  One night, I had PBS on TV while I puttered around, and I found myself getting really absorbed in a show about prenatal hormone exposure (testosterone and estrogen).  I know, party down, right?

The show had several male-female couples doing different activities (racing go-carts, solving spatial puzzles by operating heavy equipment to move things around, changing a baby's diaper), and after each activity the participants were placed on a visible continuum from "most masculine" to "most feminine."  Naturally, there wasn't a clear divide on that continuum between men and women.  A woman "won" the spatial task, and the man who was believed to have the most prenatal testosterone exposure lost the go-cart race, because his hormone levels skyrocketed during the race and he became quite reckless (and angry).  The winner was a man whose hormones sharply increased (to a peak performance range), and then leveled off -- so he was "up" but also able to keep his head.
 

One of the most intriguing segments of the show was a race of 6 elite male runners.  The scientist in charge of this one was someone who studied finger lengths -- specifically, the ratio between the index finger, or second digit (2D) and the ring finger (4D).  This was his index for testosterone exposure in utero.  He theorized that the runner with the lowest 2D:4D ratio (ring finger longest) would win.  He made a photocopy of each runner's palm (face down), and then used calipers to very carefully measure the length from the crease where the finger meets the palm to the tip of the finger.  Before the race, he predicted the finishing order without knowing anything about the runners (e.g., training regimen, diet, health history) except their 2D:4D ratio.  I couldn't believe how excited I got by that race!  And his predictions were right, except he mixed up the 3rd and 4th place winners.

Other scientists have studied this ratio as well.  A British study found that males with a "female" 2D:4D configuration (e.g., longer index finger) made better scientists and were less likely to have kids, while women social scientists had more "male" 2D:4D patterns (e.g., longer ring finger).  Aggression levels in males, but not females, has been divined from finger length.

Another studyfound that the ratio could predict students' SAT performance:

Kids with longer ring fingers compared to index fingers are likely to have higher math scores than literacy or verbal scores on the college entrance exam, while children with the reverse finger-length ratio are likely to have higher reading and writing, or verbal, scores versus math scores.

Younger kids have been studied, too:

A recent study of digit ratio in Scottish preschool children between the ages of 2 and 4 found strong relationships between digit ratio and gender-normative behavior. Girls with masculine-type finger ratios tend to have higher hyperactivity scores and more problems relating to their peers than do other girls. The same study, published in Early Human Development, found that boys with female-type finger lengths are on average more emotional than other boys. "They tended to be very sensitive," says Manning.

The higher incidence of autism among boys than girls also led to some research in that area, and the early findings are that one-year-olds with longer ring fingers fared worse on tests of language skills and willingness to make eye contact. (Of course, the vast majority of boys with typical testosterone levels don't have autism.)  Other studies have suggested that female homosexuality (but not male) can be predicted by a low 2D:4D ratio

Some scientists believe prenatal sex hormones are also part of the puzzle of homosexuality and that a high level of testosterone may wire the brain for attraction to the same sex. Intriguingly, research shows that a prenatal testosterone level is most strongly linked to homosexuality in women, according to a recent article in the Archives of Sexual Behavior. Lesbians are more likely than straight women to have a masculine finger ratio, says McFadden.

A more "female" pattern (high 2D:4D) is correlated with increased risk of both breast cancer and depression.

Not everyone believes that uterine hormones explain the finger length differences; one twin study suggested that genetics were much more explanatory than the uterine environment.  So I think the real scientific jury is out on whether the finger ratio theory is connected to anything real, and what causes the finger ratio.  

Still, ever since my interest was piqued, I've been informally checking out people's fingers lengths.  My own (2D significantly longer than 4D) seems to square with my experience of having better verbal than math skills and being prone to depression.  My DS's ratio looks to be about 1.0, which goes along with his collaborative nature.  (He had a blast playing paintball yesterday, but he talked more about how his team worked together than he did about beating the other team). DH has a typical male ratio, and he seems to like "guy" stuff well enough, with the usual exceptions (for example, this weekend he worked on the electrical to install a new chandelier, but not until he had finished his coffee served in a dainty teacup -- with a saucer).  

I'm always curious to get more data points on this stuff, just for fun.  So please, take the poll and use the comments to tell about how this does or doesn't hold up in your life.  I think I can edit the poll (?) if more options are desired.  And I hope I haven't offended anyone -- I don't want to be sexist or suggest that any ratios or personality styles or career choices or sexual preferences or number of trophies are better than any others.

Poll

2D:4D (not R2D2):

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| 68 votes | Vote | Results

Tags: male, female, finger length, pop science (all tags)

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  • Hmmm (0 / 0)

    My son's index is longer than his ring finger on one hand than the other (he's 3 and has equally masculine/feminine traits), my daughter's index is shorter on both hands (and she's a girly girly girly 5 yo girl who is neither particularly athletic nor good with numbers), I have shorter index fingers and consider myself bisexual.

    What does it all mean, mamacita!?! :)

    • you're funny :-) (0 / 0)

      I had a feeling we were going to see lots of "counter" cases if I just asked some mamas :-)

      One of the first people I "checked" after that conference was my hairdresser -- a girly girly woman who spends her weekends walking through beauty supply stores and then making elaborate candlelight dinners for her rugged, manly husband.  Her ring finger was significantly longer than her index, naturally, LOL.

      One of the articles I read said to check the right hand.  But as you can see, it's not exactly science.

      P.S. I would think the sexuality stuff would show up more robustly in confident adults than experimenting or closeted kids, so maybe there is something to your ratio.

  • other (0 / 0)

    My ring finger is longer on my left hand, but my index finger is ever-so-slightly longer on my right hand. I guess that explains why I did extremely well on both the math and verbal portions of my SAT, GMAT, and GRE exams. And here I always just thought I was really good at taking tests.

  • long ring fingers here (0 / 0)

    but I'm hopeless at math, and hopelessly straight.

  • Long ring fingers. (0 / 0)

    And every test I've ever done shows me to be strongest in "logic" skills.  I tolerate math, did well with it in school, but I'm not one of those people who LIKE doing it.  Maybe this explains my love of map-reading, though....my whole brain is like a giant grid. All of my thought processes work in that manner.  

  • Mine look about the same (0 / 0)

    Ring finger slightly longer on my left hand, and slightly shorter on my right.

  • We're typical (0 / 0)

    I have long index fingers and am straight, my sons have shorter ones and longer ring fingers (and are pretty typical-boyish).

  • Ringer fingers are longer on both hands. (0 / 0)

    And, I'm straitht.  And, I'm much better at verbal stuff than math stuff.

  • Finger Play (0 / 0)

    I'm a woman (last time I checked) and my ring finger is longer. I'm straight (although not at the outer limits of that spectrum) and not a girly-girl at all. I've always tested well on verbal skills, but also pretty well at math, too.

    My son and my husband both have longer ring fingers. They are very similar: athletic and verbose. They do not exhibit traditional female interests at all. My husband excelled at math in school, although he ended up a journalism major. Both my guys are very physically active, but they are not particularly aggressive.

  • staring at my fingers (0 / 0)

    My fingers in general are sort of short/stubby - where does that figure in?  Both my kids have longer fingers like my DH.

    Anyway, by index fingers seem to be about the same length as my ring fingers - ring fingers slightly longer, but only about by 1/2 of the nail bed or less.  I'm straight, but not girly.

    My husband also seems to have fingers that are about the same length - index fingers slightly shorter.  

  • Typical female fingers (0 / 0)

    Although my index finger is so slightly longer that I had to stare at my fingers a long time, look from the palm side, and make sure they were straight.

    I am straight, and sometimes girly. My verbal scores on the GRE were in the high 90s percentile (97th or 98th I think). My math scores were, and I do remember this, in the 67th percentile, in spite of having enough math coursework to cover the GRE.

    My husband and son both have the typical male pattern.

    It's funny though, I have always thought that both my husband and I have a good balance of "feminine" and "masculine" traits. Dh is not athletic at all, although he is in a job where negotiating/digging in on a position is important (let's call that a masculine trait LOL). He has a number of close female friends.

    My son is only 15 months, but his eye contact with adults and other kids and his general sociability are already some of his obvious personality traits. Just today at the park a total stranger commented on his eye contact specifically. (Made mommy proud :).

    RachelD

    • it's funny about the math GRE score (0 / 0)

      I remember my quantitative percentile exactly, too -- 70th -- because that was the number I needed to get into one of the programs I was thinking of applying to.  So before I took the exam the second time, that was my goal.  Kind of freaky it came out to be exactly that.  And that was after some pretty focused preparation.  I guess there's a reason my ring finger is short.

      The first time I took it was the weekend that Anita Hill was testifying.  I was walking around before and during breaks with my Walkman on, listening to the testimony.  NOT the best way to get into my fighting form for that exam. Now, in the Age of TiVO, that wouldn't be a problem!  Fortunately I still had time to re-take it.  Then decided that I didn't want to go to that program, after all, LOL.  

      • Anita Hill, what year was that? (0 / 0)

        I first took the GRE in Dec. 1988 .... am I way off, wasn't Anita Hill and Thomas around that time? Either way, doesn't sound like the most relaxing stuff between tests ;).

        I think an even 70 is quite respectable. I am now remembering that my Analytical score was also in the high 60s. Quite a disprepancy from the verbal.

        • October 1991 (0 / 0)

          It's seared into my brain, since I had to schedule a second exam time.  Fortunately I was still doing some prereq coursework.

          And there goes my theory about the analytical and verbal going together.... Sounds like in your case it was closer to the quantitative.

          I think I'm going to stop with the theories for a while as I'm striking out here!

          • Ooops, sorry (0 / 0)

            I saw your comment about that, and wondered why my analytical ability falls so freakishly far below verbal. Because those two being correlated makes intuitive sense. But I have to practice those kinds of questions that are like "you have a bowl of green, blue, red, and yellow candies. Blue and yellow can never be side by side, but red and blue must be side by side ...."

            I can't even figure out how to write a question like that LOL.

            I've often wondered if I am stumped by the total abstraction of it. Maybe if it were 4 conditions with meaning and a problem that mattered in some way, I could get it more easily.

        • oh, I'm not knocking 60s or 70s (0 / 0)

          at all!  Believe me, I worked my a** off for that 70.  Just saying that in comparison to my verbal and analytical, there's a significant discrepancy in the expected direction based on my 2D:4D ratio.

          And that's why a lot of people call me "Short Ring Finger."  At least, that's what I think they're saying.  

  • ring finger's longer (0 / 0)

    but I'm straight and have stronger verbal skills than math skills (and am hopelessly un-spacial). So much for that theory.

  • Index (0 / 0)

    My index finger is longer.

    I am a scientist.  Was a scientist might be a better term.

    Maybe I should have checked out my finger lengths before I picked my major  ; )  

  • My SIL, who happens to be gay, mentioned this (0 / 0)

    Hers play out -- longer ring finger than index and she's gay and a nursing PhD student.  She's definitely not mathy though.

    My husband is straight, pretty testosterone-ish (although 35 so a bit mellowed!) and extremely mathy.  His ring finger is significantly longer than his index finger.

    My index finger is slightly longer and I'm straight.  Not terribly mathy but I blame horrible math teachers (particular to the female students) more than prenatal hormone exposure.

    My 2 year old daughter appears to have almost the same length ring & index fingers, although I think her ring finger is a bit longer.  She's quite verbal but only 2 so math isn't really on the radar screen yet.

    I gave my 6 week old a pass -- she sleeps with her fingers curled up ;-)

    • Wait! (0 / 0)

      6 week old?  Did I miss something?

      : )

      • Yup! (0 / 0)

        We have an absolutely beautiful little girl who arrived via adoption on 6/29, two days after her birth.  We couldn't be happier.  She's quite mellow, very alert and only screams for food.  Our 2.75 y/o is a great big sister but still in the throes of being an almost 3 year old.

        I'm also 13 weeks pregnant right now so our house is a pretty crazy these days. We've always wanted three, we just didn't know they'd be this close together.  My previous pregnancies were pretty rough but so far this one is pretty mellow, still high-risk though.

        • Wow! (0 / 0)

          Congratulations!  That is wonderful.

          And now you're pregnant, that is wonderful too!  They are going to be very close together in age, that will be nice for them.  : )

          Congrats and best wishes for a smooth and happy pregnancy!

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