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Candy Cigarettes

Fri Aug 10, 2007 at 06:32:35 AM PDT

There is a wonderful, quaint candy store in the heart of our little downtown area. I love it. My kids love it. The problem? They sell candy cigarettes. I didn't notice, but my 5 year old daughter sure did. She was mortified as we've been teaching her that smoking is a no-no. Below the fold is an email exchange between the owner and me.

Hello,
My children and I really enjoy your candy shop. However, my husband
and I are dismayed that you sell candy cigarettes, especially in light of the recent studies that strongly link candy cigarettes to teen smoking. As such, we urge you to stop selling them at once. I realize that you have some on hand, so I'm willing to buy your entire inventory if you agree to never sell them again. Please let me know.

Dear GiGi,
I appreciate your concerns, and I am happy that you took the time to make me aware of them. I am familiar with the study you are referring to, but I do not believe that there is a  real correlation between candy cigarettes and smoking tobacco. I would absolutely not have them in my store if  I did. My own life experiences, along with those of my (6) siblings as well as many other friends and associates, lead me to believe otherwise. The majority of candy cigarettes that I sell are sold to nostalgic baby boomers. I sincerely hope that our differing views on this issue will not keep you from being a customer.
Kindest Regards

Dear Sweet Shop,
Thank you for the reply. I'm sorry you don't believe that the cigarettes cause any harm to children. As a former smoker (I started at 12, "cut my teeth" so to speak on candy & fake/prop cigarettes), I believe they do. More to the point, however, is that seeing the candy cigarettes in your shop truly upsets my 5 year old daughter as we are teaching her that smoking - real, on TV, fake, or otherwise - is harmful and wrong. We do love your shop but will have to think long and hard before coming in again as the candy cigarettes present a parenting dilemma for us.
Thanks again for your reply.
P.S. I'm attaching a link and the highlights of a study done on candy cigarettes. The highlights of the research include:
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Candy products that mimic packaging of tobacco brands may promote smoking in young people

Executives of both the tobacco and confectionery industries have regarded candy cigarettes as good advertising to future smokers

Some tobacco companies granted confectioners permission to use cigarette pack designs and tolerated trademark infringement

Children who have used candy cigarettes are more likely to become smokers

Unfavourable research sponsored by the US candy cigarette industry was suppressed

Elimination of candy cigarettes and other confectionery resembling tobacco products may help achieve public health goals of reducing tobacco use in young people

My husband and I have decided to boycott the shop. My sister is encouraging me to write letters to the local paper and bring the matter to the City Council's attention. I'm not sure what to do.  What would you do?

Tags: smoking, children, advertising, boycott (all tags)

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  • tough one (0 / 0)

    I'd really hate to harm a locally owned store but the cigarettes do send the wrong message.

    Perhaps they should have a "nostalgia" area of the shop that is clearly meant for grownups?

    I always thought we'd sort of sheltered our children from the concept of smoking, but just the other day, my older son took a straw in his mouth and said, "Look, I'm smoking!" and then my younger son took his french fry, dipped the end in ketchup and put it in his mouth and said, "Look, I'm smoking, too!"  I was shocked!  We had a good talk about why smoking is so unhealthy and how once you start it's very very very hard to stop so it's better to never start, etc.

    • The local part (0 / 0)

      is what is so problematic for me! I always support local biz given the choice. This is why I offered to buy out her stock since I know how hard it is to make a buck as a small business. I'm sorry she didn't take me up on my offer and rather disturbed that she sees no harm in selling those cigarettes. There is another store around here that sells nostalgia candy - none of it cigarettes - so I find it difficult to support her. My DD is so freaked out about smoking/smokers that I'm sure she will be unfazed if I tell her why we won't be going to the candy shop anymore.

  • I don't know if I'd boycott a local small (0 / 0)

    business over this frankly.  I thin what you've done is great though.  

    I have to say I have the fondest memories of the packets of chocolate cigarettes my dad would bring me from the Fanny Farmers in the prudential center in Boston... I was seriously bummed when they stopped making them... I would prance around my room for hours posing with them like Bette Davis in All About Eve with her oh so elegant cigarette holder!

  • I'd boycott them (0 / 0)

    It doesn't seem worth it to patronize their store if it makes you uncomfortable.  If you have other people who share your concerns you might see if they'd write a letter as well.

  • Right on (0 / 0)

    I think they should definitely put them out of sight of children if they are going to continue selling them.  Especially in a candy store.  Who goes to candy stores?  (Besides all these nostalgic baby boomers apparently) Children.

    Personally, I don't really believe there is such a strong baby boomer market that to put these things behind the counter would kill their business.  I would suspect they just don't like being called on it.  Or they have some emotional attachment to these things.

    I wouldn't go there anymore either if they are still in sight of little children.  That's just plain wrong.

    Your response back was good citing the research.  Let them do what they want to go now.

    I don't really have any extra sympathy for the store just because it is a locally-owned store.  That is great and all, but they still have a responsibility to the community.

    • i agree (0 / 0)

      i too support local business, however this IS a health issue. i know i would boycott too.  i also think it is a good idea to get others to write letters to the store.
    • Not sure I would boycott... (0 / 0)

      but I might suggest to the shopkeeper to keep them behind the counter or up high where children couldn't see them, if they're for adults anyway.

      • as a wife of a (0 / 0)

        over 2 pack a day smoker i feel very differently.  i have witnessed how desperately hard it is for truly addicted smokers to quit.  my dh started smoking at age 12 and you know nicotine addiction is as hard if not harder to kick than heroin.  honestly, i truly don't understand why any shop keeper, particularly one whose shop is likely mostly children wouldn't consider the considerable and potentially dreadful consequences of carrying this kind of product. am i being overly dramatic?  i don't think so. supporting the tobacco industry in any way is so distasteful to me given their horrendous record of lies and deception which continue even today.

        again i am all for supporting local businesses.  but this kind of product, which is let's face it designed for children, is beyond the pale in my opinion. and as for nostalgia?  i call BS, some things are not worth getting nostalgic over. i'd not only boycott, but with a strong voice in outrage.

        • Banned (0 / 0)

          They are banned in Canada, the UK and Australia already.

          Once again, we lag behind.  I guess even the candy cigarette makers have a strong lobby?  Or maybe just tobacco?

          • or maybe there's a connection? (0 / 0)

            it's a hot button for me as anyone can see. i guess i don't get why it would be important for anyone to carry the product. i'd have trouble sleeping at night if i thought even one child was influenced by the product.  sure there is a teaching moment in this, but aren't  there plenty of other opportunities to teach?  my own dd is witnessing the struggle my dh goes through in his ever ending attempts to quit. glorifying it through candy just seems obscene to me.  frankly after rec'ving that letter from the shop owner, it'd be hard for me to not get my irish up.  well, i think that's already happened :)
          • I think 2 of Gigi's bullet points (0 / 0)

            can answer that one:

            Executives of both the tobacco and confectionery industries have regarded candy cigarettes as good advertising to future smokers

            Some tobacco companies granted confectioners permission to use cigarette pack designs and tolerated trademark infringement

            This is planful.  It's like Apple giving Macs to schools so they could grow their customer base from a very young age.  Except computers are sort of necessary, and don't give you lung disease.

  • I was a pack a day smoker (0 / 0)

    and I hated candy cigarettes. Personally, i give my kids a little more credit-that they'll follow my example and lead now that I've quit.

    You've spoken to the store owner, and your children know better. If no one buys them, the store will stop carrying them. I guess I just don't see what the huge deal is. I never deluded myself into believing they were real, or cool as a child, but that's me.

    • Yeah, I think (0 / 0)

      I would say something to the owner if I was bothered, and steer my kids away from them.  To be honest, I don't even know if my corner carry-out sells them...its not something my kids ever even gave a second glance, anyway.  They aren't exactly packaged to attract a lot of attention, and they aren't advertised.  Its likely that kids would just by-pass them as seriously old, uncool candy.

  • Man, I loved those things (0 / 0)

    as a kid. Those and bubble gum cigars! My dad and most of my aunts and uncles all smoked when I was a kid. Almost all of them quit years ago but I certainly inhaled a lot of second hand smoke growing up. Maybe that's why smoking never appealed to me -- I was around it so much and thought it was awful.

    Not sure what I would do in your shoes. You obviously feel very strongly about it as it seems your daughter does as well. In that situation I would probably bypass the store, of course letting them know of my decision not to shop there anymore.

  • I guess it kind of bugs me (0 / 0)

    that the store owner relies so heavily on her own anecdotal experiences, while dismissing yours as well as the research.  It reminds me of George Bush -- "I believe...." when all the evidence points to a contrary conclusion.  (Yesterday he was blabbing on about how he "believes" Abu Gonzalez testified for hours and handed over thousands of documents and therefore must be a good person, nevermind that the testimony was a new art form of the absurd and he has most assuredly NOT turned over all of the requested documents.  Once again, Bush is completely wrong by every objective measure, but as long as believes it, we should keep our traps shut.)

    It sounds like she has decided she wants to carry those candy cigarettes no matter what.  I think if it upsets or confuses your daughter to go there, you are justified in going elsewhere.

  • wow (0 / 0)

    what a coincidence this diary is!  Dh and I were reminicing the other day about candy and our personal favs.  Dh said he loved the candy cigs; myself, I thought they were nasty tasting as a kid.  

    This shop must be one of those nostalgia type shops, because I have never seen them sold anywhere in years.  Not sure about the boycott, but I see your point. I guess if they get enough complaints they will yank them.

  • A valuable lesson, legislation (0 / 0)

    I find it wonderful that your daughter was mortified. Taken from the isolated view of my own family, I would see the candy cigarettes next to the other candy as a great lesson. If you can teach a child to say no to the bad candy that's in with the rest of the candy, maybe he/she will say no to an acquaintance offering them a cigarette.

    I'm not sure I would do much to take action against it. For me, it falls under the category of, "What can I control? What should I expend my energy trying to control?"

    If I really felt strongly about candy cigarettes and children's public health, I would try to make it a legislative issue. Find a representative that is interested in pushing positive youth health initiatives and suggest a ban on candy cigarettes. There are similar items on ballots all over the country.

    Mother wannabe, ETA Spring 09 if biology allows.

    by faedrake on Fri Aug 10, 2007 at 03:17:52 PM PDT

    • Legislative action (0 / 0)

      Action was taken at the federal level in 1970 and again in 1991 to ban candy cigarettes in the U.S. Both bills failed. I'm not sure why, haven't had time to research it. And, yes, states can ban them as NM is trying to do (or just has?). Mean Jean Schmidt is my rep so I'm not sure I'll be asking her for any favors in the near future!

  • "mortified"? (0 / 0)

    >I find it wonderful that your daughter was mortified.

    I find it very very difficult to believe that a 5 year old in a candy shop was mortified about anything.

    Back when I was a student, I once drove an ice cream truck for a summer.  They asked me to stock candy cigarettes with the brand name "Hey Man Cool".  Chewing gum, in a paper wrapper, with some kind of flour or powdered sugar that you could blow out to make "smoke".  The box had a cowboy with a lasso and a cigarette hanging out of his mouth.  I refused to sell them on my truck (mostly because I realized that candy cigarettes might offend some parents, potentially limiting the amount of ice cream money they handed out).  But I did buy several boxes for my college dorm room.  Hey Man, Cool!

    I believe the shop keep is probably correct in stating that most of the buyers are nostalgic 30-somethings.  And there are probably more important things for parents to worry about.  And I am 100% certain that your daughter's decision to smoke or not smoke will not be influenced in any way by candy cigarettes.  Give her some credit, and lay off hassling the local candy shop.

    • Mortification and Sally (0 / 0)

      Oh, you don't know my very dramatic 5 year old. She screamed as if seeing a rat, got all gaspy and teary eyed and said, "Mommy, they sell CIGARETTES here!" When I told her they were candy she said, 'Oh, that's not good for little kids" and proceeded to cry. So, yes, 'mortified' might be over the top, but I've got an over the top kid.

      I find it very interesting that people have a hard time accepting the studies done on candy smokes and the influence they have on kids. They put forth their own anectdotal evidence as 'proof' and dismiss the evidence to the contrary.  And, I'm not hassling the owner. I sent her an email with my concerns. and she replied in kind.

      If she wants to sell nostalgic candy, fine. Why does it have to be cigarettes?

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