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Movies with Smokers = R

Sun May 13, 2007 at 01:22:33 PM PDT

The MPAA film rating system was first instituted in 1968 (the year of my birth) and has gone through about as many changes as I have. The mystery-shrouded MPAA's Classification and Rating Administration recently announced the newest rating criteria: flagrant depictions of smoking will earn a film an R rating.

(The announcement) outlined three paramount factors as reviewers consider the impact of smoking in films: Is smoking pervasive in the movie? Is it glamorized? Is there a historical reason or other factors that make inclusion of smoking relevant?

In an interview yesterday, Joan Graves, chairwoman of the association's ratings board, described the new ratings system as "an art, not a science. We don't have rules like if you see incidences of smoking three times it's this rating, if you see incidences of smoking four times it's this rating."

To illustrate the complexity of their task, Graves pointed to the 2005 drama "Good Night, and Good Luck," the cinematic portrayal of the battle between the chain-smoking Edward R. Murrow and red-baiting Senator Joseph McCarthy.

Even though smoke clouded nearly every frame of the film, because it reflected a period of rampant smoking, it still would have kept its PG rating under the new system -- but with a notation that it included heavy smoking.

A few factors greased the slides for this move. Former father of the movie-rating system Jack Valenti died. His successor Dan Glickman does not have the same reluctance to telling filmakers how and when to use images of smoking. This time around, they brought out the big guns: the dean of the Harvard School of Public Health and other prestigious researchers testified to Hollywood heads in February about the impact that glamorized images of smoking in films has on teenagers' behavior.

"Any portrayal of tobacco in a glamorous or a positive way or as an adult-thing-to-do puts adolescents at much greater risk of using tobacco," said Dr. Matthew McKenna, director of the Office on Smoking and Health at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, who said that teens who are repeatedly exposed to smoking in movies are 1 1/2 to 2 times more likely to start the habit than teens who see less movie smoking.

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The new criteria is curious to me; on the one hand, the research regarding teens and smoking is compelling. However, with other ratings criteria--specifically sex and violence--chances are, the movies are where most teens will be exposed to that kind of imagery. To be more explicit, a teen walking down the street on a typical day doesn't see people screwing and heads getting chopped off. But a teen will see plenty of folks taking smoke breaks. I guess with smoking, the distinction is between exposure and glamorized exposure.

The documentary This Film is Not Yet Rated caused quite a stir by yanking the veil from the group that makes these rating decisions. The committee is comprised of movie theater chain and studio executives, plus a couple of clergy. They "receive no training and are deliberately chosen because of their lack of expertise in media literacy or child development."

The wiki entry on the MPAA ratings system is engrossing. Some highlights, paraphrased:

• Language: Waiting for Guffman is rated R because a man auditioning for a role uses "fuck" while quoting Raging Bull (the only time it is spoken in the movie).
• Drugs: A well known example of an otherwise "PG movie" getting a PG-13 for a drug reference is Whale Rider. The film received a PG-13 because of a scene where the drug paraphernalia was briefly visible.
• Nudity: If a film contains male rear nudity, it is more likely to be given a lower rating than if the nudity were female. Male nudity is generally regarded as ribald (i.e. mooning) or natural, whereas female nudity is generally regarded as sexual. However when it comes to frontal nudity the MPAA tends to be more lenient on female frontal nudity (A film with female frontal nudity can still earn a R rating while a film featuring male frontal nudity can still face the possibility of receiving a NC-17 rating.)
• Violence: Films that have legitimate historical or educational value are often granted leniency. Some have argued that the level of violence in Saving Private Ryan merited an NC-17, but that the film was given leniency because it was a historical war movie. This argument also came up when The Passion of the Christ was released without cuts, with an R-rating. Violence which includes bloodshed will usually receive an R rating, while bloodless violence will be rated PG-13.

Some critics of the MPAA ratings argue that the standards are ideologically biased in favor of socially conservative values: coming down harsher on sexual scenes and four-letter words while being relatively slack about violence. I would say that I fall squarely into this camp. I'm more comfortable with Jude seeing nudity or hearing obscene language than I am with him watching violent scenes. I sympathize with the critics who point out that:

...allowing violence in PG-13 movies as long as there is no blood is a form of conditioning children to accept violence as consequence-free. Many filmmakers have called this obscene and said that, if anything, children should be allowed to see violence only if the consequences are shown as well, to distinguish between violence inflicted on a person and violence inflicted in a cartoon.

In the end, I think movie ratings are helpful to parents. The MPAA insists that they are only responding to the mores of our culture, not prescribing them. I just wish the rating systems reflected my value system more.

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  • I've really had enough (0 / 0)

    of this stupid drift towards nanny-state censorship. I'm feeling like a grumpy old Libertarian today, I will admit, but this is just dumb. What are they going to put under the ratings eye next? Drinking Alcohol? Speeding? Having tatoos and piercings?

    I really detest the thinking that we must ban/regulate behaviors depicted on screen for the good of "the children." Most of the time, these actions are ideologically and subjectively driven, reflecting values that are subject to disagreement. I'd like a ratings system that reflects my values, too, but what I find unacceptable in movies (violence, crap rom-com plot twists, anything with Jennifer Anniston and/or Vin Diesel) clearly isn't going to make it into a mainstream ratings system.

    Normally, I wouldn't bother getting all het up about these topics, but ratings determines how widely released a movie will be, which, ipso facto, is censorship.

    • Agreed (0 / 0)

      I think this is ridiculous.  I'm tired of people using "the children" to further their own bizarre agendas.

      Perhaps an admirable character living way above their means with no consequences should receive an R rating.  Boring, yes, but is the media not what influences people to do this?  But that's me, using "the children" as an argument for my own values.

    • Yeah, (0 / 0)

      I dislike blanket condemnations.  Whether its nudity, smoking, drug usage or smoking, context is everything.  If only life were so simple!  Imagine being able to guarantee satisfaction in life by just picking out three or four things to avoid.

    • Hells yes (0 / 0)

      No more Jennifer Aniston movies. :)

      As far as the smoking goes, I could not agree more with Rachel.  To me, this is back-handed censorship of art.  Movie studios will/do make editing decisions based on future ratings.  Why stop at smoking?  Let's censor the drinking in "Leaving Las Vegas."  Let's edit out the unsanitary use of butter in "Last Tango in Paris."  Why stop at movies?  Let's get a big black marker out and cross out the some sections of Hemingway and Fitzgerald.  Let's black out some Nabokov.  

      Or why not just say, no movies until you turn 21.  If you can't handle seeing smoking, you can't handle seeing male pee-pee parts in "Life of Brian."  Sorry if I'm being overly snarky, but this stuff really burns my butt.    

  • Good (0 / 0)

    I don't know how I feel about the ratings system in general, but I think that this new smoking one is a good one.  

  • don't change the ratings but a huge "S" (0 / 0)

    on the smoking actor's shirt! that would be smart.

    How about some laws to protect children from real violence and threats to their health -- like handguns & drugs for starters????

    Still waiting for the so-called pro-family adminstration to be pro-family.

  • Scrubbing Classic Movies (0 / 0)

    Hasn't happened yet, but they are editing those old Tom and Jerry cartoons.  Back in August of 2006, NPR reported that Turner broadcasting agreed to cut material from Tom and Jerry cartoons that showed characters smoking.

    Now, I think the channel in question was a children's channel, so I think the decision was warranted in that specific case.  But the article I read stated that Turner broadcasting would be "reviewing its archived material."  

    So digitally scrubbing archived material might happen.  If you haven't seen the original in a while, who would know the difference?

    • Maybe they should scrub the newer ones (0 / 0)

      Seriously, at my son's last allergist appointment they put a Tom and Jerry DVD on for him to keep him from being bored as we waited for some results.  This was a new dvd and the episodes looked like they may have been computer animated so they weren't the classic cartoons.  Good lord, you couldn't tell the difference between these Tom and Jerrys and Itchy and Scratchy from The Simpsons.

      • I never like Tom & Jerry (0 / 0)

        Even as a kid, I found T&J boring, because it was all violence, all the time, with almost no discernable plot or clever lines. It's how I feel about movies with protracted battle scenes or car chases. YAWN.  I sound like such a female! It's the same reason porn bores me--no story line! no character development!

  • Mixed Feelings (0 / 0)

    I recommend checking out a film, "This Film Is Not Yet Rated." It really shows how arbitrary the MPAA is and lacks basic common sense in such matters. I don't trust them anymore.

    My mixed feelings have to do with contemporary films set in contemporary times showing smoking for the sake of looking cool or having an actor have some "business" to do with their hands. I really object to smoking as product placement and would like that to be stopped in future films. I am not sure if the rating system is the way to accomplish that.

    Past films and films set in the past where smoking was a pervasive part of the culture is completely different. Edward R. Murrow was a chain-smoker and you can't have a film without him smoking and there is no need to give an R-rating. FDR, Churchill, and other notable figures often portrayed in cinema were smokers.

    Smoke itself does have an artistic use, it looks very good on screen to create a certain mood.

    I don't support the scrubbing of original films for cigarettes, guns (ala Steven Spielberg's E.T), alcohol, etc.

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. - Martin Luther King Jr."

    by Maven on Mon May 14, 2007 at 09:02:51 AM PDT

    • Mixed feelings, too (0 / 0)

      I'm totally against censorship. But there's nothing wrong, in my view, with some kind of advisory about what's in the movie.
      Yes, people can make fun, but I wouldn't mind a little "S" notation to warn of smoking, just like the "L" and "V" notations. Then viewers can make their own informed choices.
      One pet peeve I have about this general subject is that there seems to be no such vetting of TV commercials that run during otherwise G-rated programs, such as the local or national news. I'll be watching the news in the evening as I'm making dinner, with kids nearby, and all of a sudden there's some promo for some incredibly violent cop thriller. OK, maybe kids shouldn't be watching the news these days, either!

      • I agree... (0 / 0)

        I would have been totally against the "nanny state" ratings system before I became a parent. But now deciding which movies are safe for my three year old to watch is making me realize just how meaningless the ratings are. For example..."Happy Feet" may have been a nice happy kids movie. But it scared the bejesus out of her with the seal chasing scene. And "Ice Age 2" had incredibly scary creatures in it. We had to keep making trips out to the lobby! When she gets older and has graduated past the "G" movies, I'd like some warning about things that I don't agree with children being exposed to. Such as violence (with or without blood, especially of a sexual nature), drugs, inappropriate drinking, smoking...I'll think of others (feeling more and more like a grandmother every second here). I would appreciate some sort of rating system that lets me know exactly what stuff is in it that I might have to worry about. Until then, I use this site. They are far more concerned than I am about nudity and sex, but they very carefully spell out the violence and profanity. And that's the kind of warning that I really appreciate.

        And the news makes me really grumpy too. I had the morning "Today" show on the other day, and a commercial came on for the TV station, showing news events in the past year. One of which was a father beating the crap out of his daughter. Just what I want to answer questions about at 6 am! TV is now off in the mornings.

  • One positive (0 / 0)

    It will probably reduce the amount of smoking you see in movies, which I think has been shown to be much higher than the rate in real life (and has, as Amy notes, been shown to influence adolescent smoking).  The vast majority of the time smoking is unnecessary to the plot - it's obviously realistic/valid in things like "Good Night & Good Luck", but typically is not needed.  I don't see that much is lost if the characters don't smoke.

    Now what I'd like to see is people in movies use their seatbelts.  They never seem to wear seatbelts in movies (as opposed to the true life rate in the US which is something like 85-90%).

    My public health background is showing here.  I'd prefer if movie makers would choose these things rather than having it forced upon them, but I don't understand why they haven't chosen it in the first place.

  • Where is the button for (0 / 0)

    "Film ratings are horseshit?!?"  That's the one I wanted.

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