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Thoughts on Charity

Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 06:35:18 AM PDT

This time of year always gets me assessing how much we've given to charity over the previous year. This isn't necessarily because it's the season of giving, but more because we need to figure out the total amount for tax purposes.

I recently read the book Three Cups of Tea, about an American man who dedicates his life to building schools in Pakistan and Afghanistan on a very limited budget (here's a link to his organization). He describes his quest for funding for his projects, and how little money he really needed from Americans to make an enormous difference in another country. It made me think of Peter Singer and this article I read by him years ago. Our country is so amazingly wealthy and it's unbelievable how little we're willing to share with others.

I consider myself a bit of a hypocrite when discussing charity, because I don't think we give enough. I grew up in a pretty well-off home where money just was not given away. My parents would buy things from kids selling them for fundraisers, but acted like they deserved some medal of honor the couple times I remember them making donations (which were under $100). Even now, they make an insane amount of money, but really don't give it away. My mom complains bitterly that my dad gets such a big bonus that they have to pay a lot of taxes on it. (I spend all day talking to my little kids about how it's nice to share, and don't think I should need to do the same with my parents!)

Compared to what my parents give, I feel like we're pretty generous, but when I look at the actual numbers, we're only giving 1% of our salary, and that seems so pathetic to me. We spend about 6% of our salary on a private preschool for our son, and it seems like our priorities are off when that amount could almost build a school in another country.  We also do save pretty significantly for retirement, so my hope is that when we're older and have taken care of our own first, we'll be more generous with our money.  But I might just have a whole other set of excuses when we get to that point.

Everyone on this board seems so forward-thinking, and I'm curious where you donate money, and whether you feel like you give enough.  We always make sure to give money to environmental organizations, but our other priorities on where to donate change every year.  This year, we've given significant contributions to a homeless shelter, a school program for urban kids, and a cancer foundation.  In the past, we've given to organizations like UNICEF and Doctors without Borders, and I think we should be taking more of a global view with our donations.  We haven't really done many political donations in the past, but I can see doing more of that in the near future if we find a candidate we really support.

As my kids get older, I also want to teach them about charity and have them grow up feeling like it's normal to give.  This year, my 3-year-old picked out some books from his school's Amazon wish list.  When he's older, I'd like to give him a charity budget each year and let him choose what to support, and/or encourage him to contribute some of his own money by matching his contributions.  When I was a teacher, my class organized a fundraiser and I told them I would match their earnings, which resulted in a $1200 donation to UNICEF.  I like to think we all learned a good lesson about charity from that.

For those interested in checking out how different charities spend their money, you might want to look at the Charity Navigator website.

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  • Charity begins at home? (0 / 0)

    I am conflicted about charitiy.  My parents give tons of money to various causes, plus do fundraising and volunteering, so that's how I grew up thinking it should be.  But we are in massive debt, so I can't be as generous as I'd like, and I have trouble figuring out how to best give what I can.

    I usually go with personal causes, like if people I know are involved.  I'm donating $50 out of a couple of paychecks to Pretty Bird Woman House.  I also hope to be able to get some Home Depot gift cards for the local progressive radio station's Missippi Mission.  I think it would be better if I could actually put in time doing something like Habitat for Humanity, but there's the challenge of juggling the baby around anything like that.

    • Give what you can (0 / 0)

      Don't feel guilty right now - no need.  Give what you can and give your time when you have it.  I remember one of my professors saying that it's important to give back when you can because there are times in life (illness, small children, etc) when it's really hard to do so.

  • I've been giving time, not money. (0 / 0)

    I don't have much money to give. While my kids are tiny, it's not been as possible to give a lot of time either, but I can at least stay informed. As they get older and more observant, I'm able to do more and more. I think action might make more of an impression on my young kids anyway, more so than sending checks.

    I also find that doing stuff to help ultimately helps me feel better when I start to get really worried about the poor, about politics, and about global warming.

    • I agree about action (0 / 0)

      I hope to get my kids involved in more hands-on charity work when they get older, but at 1 and 3 our options are pretty limited.  I do agree that that fosters more of a connection.

  • I don't do anything (0 / 0)

    I don't do anything right now.  I admit it.  One day I hope that changes.

    My main reason is that the amount that I can give, or used to give, whether it be to my alma mater, a political cause or a charity, only seemed to fuel them sending me brochures and letters and phone calls for years, which surely cost 10X more than my original paltry donation.

    So now I consider that I am doing them a favor by not donating my too-small donation.

    • Flyers! (0 / 0)

      Yeah, good point.  I bought 1/5 of a llama from Heifer Project once, and they won't stop sending me magazines.  And the DNC still thinks we're rich because once a upon a time we scraped all our college-student stipend left-overs for the Dean campaign.

    • You can ask to not receive solicitations (0 / 0)

      I gave to Heifer last year, and a few days later they called me.  I told them to remove all my contact info from their database and that it was a waste of money for them to try to contact me again.  I knew they existed and if I chose to donate, I would get in touch with them.  They actually seemed to appreciate it.

      We need to get our name off Doctors without Borders.  We have them a pretty significant donation once, and send us stuff constantly.  It's even handwritten, which makes me feel worse.

      I've heard that for this reason it makes more sense to do one large donation than several smaller ones, since every donation costs them a bit of money to process, etc.

    • electronic correspondence (0 / 0)

      Most nonprofits these days would probably be happy to send you only electronic correspondence if you ask. I'm sure they'd rather not waste a bunch of paper, either!

  • Another hypocrite (0 / 0)

    I'm right there with you. DH and I are trying to hit the 10% mark on charitable giving (in lieu of tithing to a church), so each year we ramp things up by adding charities and using auto withdrawal, etc. This year we're at...1%! ARGH!

    We also do a charity budget, which we started when our youngest was 4. So far, their favorites are WWF and Heifer, but we volunteered at Feed My Starving Children this year and they really liked that as well.

    I applaud your efforts to raise funds in your community. We live in an affluent area, and I am amazed by the lack of giving I see. I was asked to solicit for juvenille diabetes last year and netted $5 (and I'M diabetic! You'd think I could get a little shout out!) I would like to host a party for Women for Women Int'l, but I'm afraid I'll have to disown all my friends if they show up and don't donate!

    DH and I try to focus on hunger/clean water, and children's health and well being. I mentioned some of our faves above, but we also like World Vision, Ronald McDonald House and a local org. that helps the developmentally disabled. We give equally to secular and faith-based organizations...as long as they're getting the work done.

    Thanks for the thought-provoking post Treena, and for reminding us all that this is, above all, a season of giving.

  • Hmmm... (0 / 0)

    I know where you're coming from.  We live pretty paycheck-to paycheck, and don't give as "regularly" as I'd like.  Neither are we saving particularly well.  However, we do give to a gay-rights organization every year, and when I inherited some money from my grandmother this year, we took 5% of the total amount and picked 4 charities to pass that along to.  (The rest wen to paying off DD's January hospital bills and  moving).  CARE (a women and child centered organization), NRDC, our church we loved in Southern California that is run by friends, and to a set of friends of ours.  

    These two people have been homeless (with their kids, despite having rich parents in the area), and are now reduced to panhandling on the street since her job fell through.  He was a plumber, but is now disabled, and is going back to school so he can take on a new career.  She has a history degree from Cal Berkeley and is trying to get a job while she earns her teaching credential.  Rough stuff.  We bring them food and such on a pretty consistent basis, and invite them over for family meals, but we figured a chunk of cash tucked in with the book we got them for Christmas couldn't hurt either.

    I do wish we gave more, but I'm hoping that this year I'll be able to give more of my time to offset the fact that we're broke.

  • Sometimes I can't believe (0 / 0)

    how much everyone on this site seems to think about the same things I do! I've been mulling this one over a lot lately. I don't know what percentage of our income we give away, but I'm guessing it's closer to one than ten percent. We have "charity" as a line in our monthly budget, but usually we decide what to give after everything else (both necessary and unnecessary) has been paid out.

    One thing we do conistently is give both time and a decent amount of money to our church. We make an annual pledge that we up a little bit each year. Our older son also makes his own pledge and has an envelope (that he fills out) to put in the collection plate each week. We also do a lot of local giving at the holidays - buying gifts for needy families and food for the food bank in particular. A list of our other charitable giving would include the American Cancer Society, the ACLU, the Sunday Breakfast Mission, and our local nature society.

    A lot of our donations tend to be small, and overall I think we could and should give more away. But I also believe in the power of small donations and if the opportunity comes up to make one, I always do.

    One thing I really wrestle with is the issue of donating time. I know I should, especially as a model to my kids, and yet right now I'm so busy and really want to spend what little extra time I have either writing or with them.

    Ultimately, I'm never comfortable that I'm giving enough away. I suppose that's probably a good thing, because I'm not!

    • I'm so glad our church made it easy. (0 / 0)

      I got tired of "giving" after everything else was taken care of; it seemed very "crumbs from the table" as opposed to giving from our "wealth," such as it is.  So, a couple of years ago, our church started a direct-debit program, and I took a deep breath and signed us up at 5% of our previous-year's net income.  Ouch, for the first few  months, but now it's a regular bill.  AND, this year we've been at 5.5%.  When I do the taxes for 2007, we go to 6%.  Funny thing, though - I still have enough money for all the needs, some of the wants, and I still support local charities at the same level as before.  I'm also glad we talk about "time, talent, and treasure," because it shows my kids that the busiest families can still make time to help others.  We do the community lunch kitchen one Thursday a month, as a family.  Even the littlest can help set the tables!
      You're right about comfort levels, though - when I think it's enough, I'm probably in trouble!

  • I also think we (0 / 0)

    could give more than we do, and I also think we could do some volunteering, which we don't really do, other than our daughter's school.  We always give to Mercy Corps.  If I hear about an organization, and I like what they do, I try to give something.  Around this time of year, I let my daughter choose something she'd like.  Last year, she chose a food bank, and this year we're adopting 2 families and she also bought a flock of chickens at Heifer International.

    I always try to give something to an arts organization because those are always so strapped for money, and where would we be without music, etc.?

    There are some great suggestions in this thread!

  • us... (0 / 0)

    We are members of public television and public radio, the local science center, and also the art museum of which I am an employee. We're also members of the American Museum of Natural History.  We've made a four figure capital campaign commitment to the museum, which is the biggest gift we've ever given.

    All of these are kind of self-serving.  We get benefits and take advantage of the resources provided by these non-profits.  I do also participate in the United Way campaign by having $5 a pay period withdrawn from my paycheck.  And whenever the grocery story is fundraising for the food bank, I always add a few bucks to my bill.

    We do make gifts to Amnesty International and a couple of environmental organizations, and Miles is raising money for Greenpeace and also participates in fundraising efforts at his school for things like Alex's Lemonade Stand and Pennies for Peace.  We also always provide Holiday Hope Chest items annually for a neat community project that many local schools take part in.  

    What does it all add up to?  I really don't know.  We often talk about what we would do if we had many more assets and agree that we would probably set up an endowment at our local library which serves the whole community so well.

    I guess at this point we're not strategic with our philanthropy (which is funny since I'm in the philanthropy business).  At this point it's a patchwork.  We are only just now getting some savings put away and feeling like we are doing alright financially, so it's hard to make larger commitments.  But it's certainly something we plan on doing.

  • We probably give (0 / 0)

    close to 15%. We give 10% to our church, some of which goes to support our building and staff while other parts go to support the free meal we provide to anyone who needs it every Thursday night, or the other mission projects our church is involved with.

    The rest, we give to various organizations and it is not always the same. Some years we give more to political campaigns [usually presidential election time] so there is less for charities. This year I've given more money to breast cancer research, having had three friends diagnosed in 2007. We give to the local PBS and public radio stations, some around Christmas time to Heifer International, some to environmental causes [often dependent upon what is in the news or who asks us for money], some to local museums.

    We are fortunate financially and it is important to us to help out those who are in need.

    And, this was timely to me, too, as another mom and I were just discussing something we could do for our kids' class holiday party that would be about giving to others. We decided to have them make cards to mail to a recovering soldier at Walter Reed.

    • Good for you! (0 / 0)

      Being fortunate financially doesn't necessarily mean people donate money to causes.  I've thought of you before in the past in this regard - very neat!

      • How true (0 / 0)

        Being fortunate financially doesn't necessarily mean people donate money to causes

        I always note with much disgust when they report each year on what the President, Vice President, etc, give to charity. I remember one year the report on our governor was so pathetic -- and he tried to cover by saying that the money he drops in the collection plate at church is not included in that. Please! I have never known anyone who put a significant amount of money in the collection plate who did not do it with a check and claim the charitable contribution on their taxes.

    • that's awesome (0 / 0)

      It's really great that you are this generous with charity.  So many people who could afford to don't even bother.  Just think how much good Americans could do for the world if we all voluntarily "shared the wealth" a little more.

  • 1.5% of gross? (0 / 0)

    I haven't really added up all of the numbers, but we give probably 1.5% or so.  I'd really like to give more and think that monthly giving is the way to do it.  This year we spent at least 26K on adoption costs so I'm hoping that we can ratchet up our giving next year.  

    We do some monthly giving to the DNC and DH periodically gives to various candidates.

    It's not charitable giving, per se, but we "green up" our electric power every month.  We had been doing carbon offsets but it expired and I haven't renewed yet - anyone have a carbon offset place they recommend?

    Locally this year we gave to our daughter's nonprofit preschool scholarship fund, a great local food bank, an organic farm land trust, the local independent radio station, the local zoo and the local natural history museum.

    Nationally we give to the ACLU.

    Internationally we like PATH, Partners in Health or the Carter Center.  For fun holiday gift giving I like Heifer International & the Seva Foundation.

    I think I'd like to add a child advocacy group that works to help at-risk kids here in the Puget Sound - Childhaven.

    Time-wise, ha!  I'd be a disaster helping out.  I can barely lug my 2 kiddos and pregnant belly out for coffee, let alone help!

  • holiday time (0 / 0)

    does make me think about giving back to people more than causes. this year i've been thinking a lot about reducing our consumption so instead of buying toys and giving them away, i just donated money to the local children's theater for a fund that offers tickets to low-income kids and families.

    otherwise, we support a variety of local institutions - the children's hospital, the zoo, etc. and a few national organizations. we used to give more money to enviro groups, political campaigns, and reproductive rights orgs, but money is tight now so we do what we can.

  • UNICEF (0 / 0)

    Please reconsider UNICEF - it's probably not the organization you think it is!  It is highly controversial and opposed by many organizations.  

    From the 60's through the early 90's UNICEF was wonderful, one of the most remarkable organizations in the world.  But in 1995 Carol Belamy took over and redirected the mission away from direct aid.  Under Belamy UNICEF's stated priority was influencing the policy of other nations, not direct aid to children.  Children became political pawns and fundraising tools; many of the gains of the 60s and 70s were lost.  The prestigious medical journal The Lancet has been harsh in it's criticism and has some excellent editorials summing up the issues and urging a return to children's aid.

    UNICEF is the organization that has been trying to keep "Baby Brave" from having a family.  They believe institutionalization is often preferable to international adoption, though they intervene in severely impoverished countries without providing any funding to orphanages themselves, some of which are horrific.

    • interesting (0 / 0)

      I'd never heard this perspective on UNICEF, and it's really discouraging.  I haven't given to them for a few years, but if we consider it again I'll investigate more.  It's hearing this stuff that discourages me from giving lots of money to charity, though.  I feel like I need to know that the money is being well spent and supporting things that are important to me.

      What was so impressive about the man in Three Cups of Tea is that it really seemed like the money was all working towards such a clearly positive cause.

      • UNICEF won't directly say they are against (0 / 0)

        international adoption. The whole issue gets cloaked in  a lot of nice words around preserving culture and families. Which is all well and good if that occurs. Living in a poor orphanage unsubsidized by the government or dying from dehydration before age 5 isn't a cultural heritage. UNICEF dangles aid money in front of governments if they promise to effectively shut down international adoption. Despite the fact that international adoption affects only about 1% of the children in any country and it's certainly not a feasible answer for any country's problems. The more poor kids, the more money UNICEF needs to support its programs. Yes, I am pretty cynical about them. Here's a father's perspective: Unicef

        • that really sucks (0 / 0)

          Again, good info.  When my class and I gave to UNICEF several years ago, it was towards a specific program for schooling for refugees, so I hope that money didn't help promote something like this.  Ugh.

          • unicef (0 / 0)

            UNICEF claims that donor contributions go to the program of the donor's choice, so your money probably did help refugees.  But I'm not sure it matters - this just leaves them freer to allocate other funding.  For example, of the money appropriated by the US congress, 100% goes to political activities and overhead.  (This according to the request they submitted to congress; I think the one I saw was for 2005.)  Ugh indeed.

  • fewer groups, larger amounts (0 / 0)

    We donate at the end of the year for tax reasons and as we see how we're doing for the year.  We donate to a small organization we trust doing rural health and infrastructure in a developing country; our contributions are comparatively big for this little group and I get a great deal of satisfaction estimating how much of a difference my contribution makes. We also make an annual donation to MSF to use where they see fit - they really gained our respect when they said "no thank you" to tsunami-related donations after their capacity was tapped out.

    I hate hate hate getting solicitations - I'm contrary and ornery, and these make me want to close my purse. So aside from one local group we no longer make small donations except anonymously.  The JustGive website is a good way to make anonymous contributions to many organizations.

    We don't give as much as we know we should.

  • We have a giving plan (0 / 0)

    We started it last year. We decided to choose a handful of organizations and give them a good chunk each, annually until we reconsider, if we ever do. We stick with the plan, and don't give to other organizations on the spur of the moment. This keeps our giving focused and provides a bit of "protection" from guilt induced giving, which doesn't feel that great.

    Our list:

    Dh's undergrad alma mater, general fund
    My undergrad alma mater, School of Education, student teacher scholarships
    My graduate alma mater, School of Education (my psychology program was under the SOE)
    Habitat for Humanity, Katrina fund for now (g-d, I hope that's doing something)
    A program at the University of California, San Francisco that provides AIDS drugs directly to the program's adult patients in Africa (this is from a personal relationship to the program, plus it's one of the health disasters of our time).
    Planned Parenthood, local region
    Depending on the election cycle, some political giving directly to a candidate

    I am thinking of adding the local children's hospital (toys) and a group that provides food directly to people who need it.

    The other benefit to a plan for us is that we actually then do it. I just go down the list one evening in January (I know, late!) and do it online. Rather than having that task get buried with all the other ones.

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