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TMI, maybe.

Tue Dec 18, 2007 at 06:02:06 PM PDT

Ladies, I need your perspectives on a (down)side of pregnancy that I really wasn't aware of two years ago.  I am having a really horrible time with all the physical changes that have happened in my body since having a kid.  This is stuff that I never thought about, and I'm trying to figure out what is normal, and what I need to fix.  Oy.

At the risk of getting banned from this site forever and ever, the one downside of pregnancy that everybody knows about was never a problem.  I sweated the weight away in about two weeks.  Not through exercising, mind you, but through night sweats.  I had been so sick throughout my pregnancy that I only ever gained 20 pounds.  By the time I sweated it all out, I actually ended up 10 pounds lighter than I had been before the pregnancy.

Ok, please, put down the bats.  Really, there's more.  (And I've put the 10 pounds back on anyway through my amazingly bad eating habits.  Yay me.)

Pregnancy seemed to trigger several difficult-to-manage health problems.

The biggest, and the scariest, was the abdominable cramps/chronic diarrhea.  The members of my family are insanely aware of our gastrointestinal systems and all the ways they can screw you.  My grandmother, whom I loved so much, died of colon cancer when I was in college.  9 years after that, my brother, whom I also love so much, was diagnosed with Crohn's disease.  Crohn's is a disease where you have chronic diarrhea and inflammation mostly in your intestines, although it can show up anywhere in the gastro tract.  You become a prisoner of knowing where the bathroom is at all times, because those with the worst cases can need one more than 20 times a day.  My brother has a very stubborn case, and was on steroids for SEVEN years, and his weight dropped as low as 122 lbs on a 6' tall guy.  (He just got off them a few months ago, and is symptom free so far.  God, we are so happy!)  So, a few months after delivering, I started having symptoms, and I was scared.  So scared that I ignored it for a while.  Finally, I went to a GI doc, and immediately got a full mouth-to-butt workup due to the family history.  Total clean bill of health.  They couldn't even see a reason for my constant burping, also a legacy of the pregnancy.  But I still have the symptoms!  I have since then waffled between self-diagnoses of Irritable Bowel Syndrome, low fiber diet, and, the latest, gall bladder problems (it explains the burping!!!)  In the past few months, its gotten a lot better, and I haven't needed the hyoscamine for the cramps (as I call it, the epidural in a bottle.  Marvelous little pills.)  Now, it pretty much only acts up right before my period.  Any thoughts on this?  It gets me pretty stressed.

The next thing is the fibrocystic breast disease, although I'm not sure I can blame pregnancy for this one, because after I was diagnosed I found out my mother has it too.  So it could just be my genes.  But I get these shooting, amazingly bad pains in my breast tissue--I literally can't breathe because it hurts to expand my chest.  And then of course there are the fun little cysts that show up on the boobs that make me freak about breast cancer regularly.  Good times.

Finally, though, there is the sweating.  This is where the TMI comes in. I'm really embarrassed about this, actually. (Hysterical, right?  I can discuss pooping with equanimity thanks to regular dinner conversations about my brother's "angry colon," but mentioning sweating makes me squirm.  I'm crazy.)  I have lately developed a really bad case of constant underarm sweating. And its worse on the right side.  It started a little bit after the first pregnancy, but all I had to do was avoid certain fabrics.  Now, though, after the second abbreviated pregnancy, I am sweating through all my clothes.  Fabric doesn't matter--cotton, silk, synthetic.  All of them.  Temperature doesn't matter.  I am constantly freezing in my office, but I sweat through all my shirts.  I used to be able to wear blazers several times before taking them to the dry cleaners, but now that's impossible.  I am hyper self-conscious about this, I have deodorant in my purse at all times, and always wear a sweater.  This turning me into a basket case.  I'm positive I smell bad, which makes me very uncomfortable in meetings and such.  I talked to a doctor about this, and she was amazingly unhelpful.  Luckily, this wasn't my regular doctor who is currently out on maternity leave.  I'm going to try again next week, but I'm not hopeful.  So, ladies, did this happen to anyone else?  Help?  

In the interest of full disclosure, I did just turn 35.  This could just be due to age.  But I hated being pregnant anyway, so I'm willing to pile on blame here.  Insights, advice and strategies would be welcome.  I didn't even get into the fact that my eyes need physical therapy, but really, do you want to know that much more about my body?

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  • You're doing the right thing (0 / 0)

    My advice to someone would be "go post it on MT and see what people say" so while I am unhelpful since that didn't happen to me (although I was hot all the time) I'm sure someone here will have experience with it.

    The diarrhea thing is interesting to me, since when I was pregnant I would get soooo constipated, going like 4-6 days between and getting so uncomfortable.

    My Mom had Crohn's - she was on steroids for a while too and eventually ended up needing surgery to remove a good part of her colon.  Hopefully your brother won't get that bad!

  • For what it's worth... (0 / 0)

    My body went haywire post- pregnancy too.  Here's what I've learned:

    Evening primrose oil, one or two a day, does wonder for "Ouchy Boobs"and I've fallen in love with Secret Clinical as a solution to my personal stinkies.  It's spendy, but it's worth it.

    I've got nothing on the other stuff, but I could totally match you point-for-point on the icky TMI.  I think that "TMI" and "Mommy" are oxymoronic.  Considering what we've been through, there's nothing that we flinch at anymore...is there?

    Perhaps this explains the dearth of holiday cards on my mantle...

    • Whew, (0 / 0)

      I'm not alone.  Yay.  I will try the primrose oil because man, the boobs can seriously hurt.  As for the Secret Clinical, I have tried it.  It doesn't quite do it, and I think it smells pretty bad on me.  Must be a body chemistry issue.  The unhelpful doctor did give me a prescription for Drysol, so I'll have to try it now.

      LOL at the cards comment!

    • Both of those remedies work for me too (0 / 0)

      I just had to go through all kinds of mammograms and visits to a surgeon to try and figure out why my boobs hurt so much (my mom and maternal aunt had breast cancer, so like you, I'm in for the full workout everytime something goes wrong in that area, even though I'm only 37). They were unable to find anything wrong. I asked one doctor why my breasts hurt and he said "when you get to heaven you should ask God why He does that to women" (!)

      Anyway, a wonderful surgeon recommended the primrose oil, and it is amazing. And that clinical strength deoderent works wonders. Trust me, you aren't alone. I sweat like a pig.

    • I second (0 / 0)

      the evening primrose reccomendation.  It really helps with PMS too.  

      "We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dream..."

      by 1plain1peanut on Wed Dec 19, 2007 at 06:33:34 AM PDT

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    • Seriously... (0 / 0)

      I think DH and I have scared our child-free friends forever with baby poop stories at the dinner table. :-)

      Tessa, my body bounced back with baby #1, but I am finding changes with baby #2. I thankfully don't have the diarrhea problem, but I need to be near a rest room at all times to pee. Also, the weight is not coming off as easily with Eli, although I am not working out and my eating habits aren't consistent. We will see what happens when I stop nursing, but my body feels different this time around.

      That said, if you have a really bad case of diarrhea and/or stomach ache,I would go to the doctor. My husband has horrible stomach pains and he is doing everything possible to receive a diagnosis -- even when doctors don't find anything. You should go with your mommy gut. No pun intended! :-)

    • Love Secret Clinical too (0 / 0)

      With my extra sweatiness since the start of this pregnancy I HAD to do something. And I just love the stuff!

  • No idea (0 / 0)

    The only thing that I would say is go to some different doctors for different perspectives if you are still struggling with the symptoms and it sounds like you are.  My life and probably fertility were saved by a second opinion years ago so this is something that I strongly advocate.  I hope your insurance allows this too I should probably add as I'm sure that can be an issue too.

  • We should get together... (0 / 0)

    due to autonomic neuropathy, I don't sweat at all.  Ofcourse, this means I missing a major "cooling" mechanism, so I constantly run the risk of overheating.  Wish there was some way we could trade around a bit!

    The autonomic neuropathy turned into autonomic failure during my last two pregnancies, leaving me severely impaired.  Pregnancy is a huge stress on the body and its surprising that we don't suffer more consequences.  

  • do you have a family (0 / 0)

    history of thyroid issues?  Since you seem to have a history of other issues, you might just check with your doctor on your thyroid levels.  Especially postpastrum, the thyroid can go crazy.

    Here are some symptoms of hyperthyroidism:

    Palpitations
    Heat intolerance
    Nervousness
    Insomnia
    Breathlessness
    Increased bowel movements
    Light or absent menstrual periods
    Fatigue
    Fast heart rate
    Trembling hands
    Weight loss
    Muscle weakness
    Warm moist skin
    Hair loss
    Staring gaze

    I am hypothyroid (the opposite) but in my experience, my thyroid issues were undiagnosed and then mis-diagnosed for years.  Then I decided that it was time check with a specialist.... 11 years later I feel much better.

    May not be, but the panels are easy to run and your doctor can at least rule it out...

  • a good friend of mine (0 / 0)

    had Botox for sweating.  She swears by it.

    I'm not much help with your other symptoms, but this one might be an easy fix.  Especially since you're stressing about it, it seems worth the splurge (if your insurance doesn't cover it).  The dry cleaning savings alone might make it worth it!

    Good luck.  The body is an amazing, mysterious thing.

  • Can't write much tonight (0 / 0)

    but I have Crohn's. Steroids don't work at all for me. I get Remicade now. Pricey, but I haven't had any symptoms (and used it through pregnancy), and I get it  less frequently than they recommend. (But it is my "maintenance" med.)

    Downer is that at 3.5yo, DS was also diagnosed. He did respond to steroids, and is doing well since he got diagnosed and got off the steroids and onto a maintenance med. Odd thing is, we both seem to get it in the colon, not the small intestine, but it seems to really be Crohn's and not UC.

    Hugs for you, and I hope you get good advice. Just wanted to poke in with a "you can have a reaonable life" with Crohn's story, though tonight I'm the crazed U prof with grades due at 10am and waaay too much left to grade.

    -Cheryl

    • My dh has Crohn's as does his (0 / 0)

      twin brother --- both diagnosed in their 50's, six months apart.   So far our children seem to be fine...they are 21 and 17, although one of my dh's older sons was diagnosed with diabetes in his 20's, type 1...which I've heard  has some genetic link to Crohn's.

      Both my dh and his twin do pretty well.  My dh is on Asacol, rarely on steriods, only during a flareup which happens very infrequently.  But his twin had to have an operation a few years back due to a blockage and is now on Remicade....he seems to have a harder time with his Crohn's than dh.

      Good luck with your son and your own health.

      • Thanks (0 / 0)

        DS's maintenance med is similar to the medication in Asacol -- but it's in a form that can be liquified. (Asacol tabs have to be swallowed whole.)

        Besides steroids, I've tried Asacol and 6-mp (6-mercaptopurine = purithenol). I was only diagnosed at age 30 (nearly 7 years ago), so it was a bit of a shock for DS to have such an early diagnosis. (I had no symptoms until 3-4  mos prior to diagnosis.) I've been in remission on Remicade for longer than I ever was with anything else (years versus months). Just hoping it lasts, since there aren't a lot of other things out there to try.

        Rheumatoid arthritis and IBD have a strong link -- Remicade actually works for both. Either haven't heard of -- or not remembering -- a link with diabetes.

        -Cheryl

        • All three... (0 / 0)

          arthritis, IBD, and diabetes are all auto-immune disorders, as I understand it.  So, it wouldn't surprise me to see a link.

          Cheryl, did you ever try massive doses of antibiotics?  There was just a study that said that might help...

    • Oh, wow. (0 / 0)

      I'm sorry about your DS.  That must have been hard for you.  I'm so glad to hear its under control, as well as yours! My brother kicked his steroids through Humira.  I didn't realize you could use Remicade during pregnancy!

      • Remicade and pregnancy (0 / 0)

        It wasn't officially approved when I did it -- I even signed a waiver. It's now officially okay, and I suspect my pregnancy is a data point in the study saying as much.

        We looked at the risks and the benefits. The risk of having a flare while pregnant appeared to be much higher than the risk that the medication presented. DH, myself, a perinatologist, and our midwife were all in on the conversation. I wasn't even bumped to where I had to see an obstetrician, though I'm sure I was being monitored. (All of this was at a University hospital, so I have no doubt it was reported.)

  • No comments or advice (0 / 0)

    Everyone has offered up anything that I would;ve said, but just wanted to offer some ((((hugs)))).  Hope you get some answers soon and your body gets less loopy!

  • Not TMI at all (0 / 0)

    One of my favorite books about pregnancy and child care was "The Girlfriends Guide," which made a compelling case for talking with other women about our difficulties.  There's so much that happens to us, and we often try to keep it hidden.  That's not helpful....

    I would have your hormones checked for sure.  One thing to know is that, pre-period, when your prostaglandins are high, those same hormones that cause the cramping in your uterus also cause cramping in your digestive tract.  Yay, right?  Before most of my cycles, I get a few bouts of diarrhea, so that's somewhat normal for many women, but if yours is really debilitating, a hormone check is in order.

    Good luck, and I hope you find a good doctor.  You might ask other women in your area for a referral to a better physician.  It's so hard to find a good doctor who actually listens.....

  • Maybe not... (0 / 0)

    But just maybe... Did the GI doc do a check for H.pylori? Helicobacter pylori can cause all of the GI symptoms that you're describing (the burping is a big giveaway!). It's incredibly common, runs in families, and very easy to fix. Also easy to diagnose, with a breath test. If you weren't checked at your GI appointment, insist that you be. It can cause ulcers and stomach cancer if it's untreated.

    Sorry...family obsession. My fil had something to do with all of the stuff surrounding H.pylori. So we all automatically see the symptoms everywhere. It's worth checking out though!

    I also sweat. Much worse since being pregnant. Nothing seems to work for me, including the Secret Clinical strength. There are surgical and chemical solutions...I'm sure your GP will help when she's back.

    • GRRRRRR! (0 / 0)

      I cannot tell you how many doctors have blown off my burping as acid reflux post-baby, and just thrown antacids at me.  A simple breathe test?  I KNEW I should go to another GI doc.  GRRRRRRRRRR

      Thanks, aussieyank, for this tip.  I'll be following this up.

      • There's a lot of politics... (0 / 0)

        That non-medical people don't see. Even though the discovery and treatment of H.pylori won the Nobel in 2005 (indicating that it is pretty well accepted these days!), there is still a lot of nonsense going on between the acid blocking drug companies (who really don't want you to know that you don't need to spend hundreds of dollars for the rest of your life...just get rid of the bug and you're cured!), the "old guard" GI docs, who really don't like being just plain wrong, and the progressive doctors who recognize common sense when you see one. I'll stop ranting now. But do get tested...it's worth a little breath test. Make sure you haven't been on any acid blockers for a month beforehand though.

  • I just want to chime in (0 / 0)

    and say this is not TMI. If you can't come to MT with your questions, where can you go?

    I have no other advice, though, except to say that these things do not sound like "normal" changes pregnancy brings to your body. Droopy breasts and a big flap o' stomach -- I got those. But I don't have the symptoms you describe nor have my close friends [the ones close enough that they would have shared with me.]

    Sounds like you've got lots of good suggestions of things to check out. Good luck!

  • hormones suck (0 / 0)

    I would go to another doctor.

    While my PP sweating wasn't as intense as yours, I really did actually stink.  I had to use super strength men's deoderant and even that wasn't that great. (the secrect clincial wasn't out yet) For two summers in a row I was just mortified.   I also did a lot of sweating in my crotch too which was pretty humiliating and I used "Dial" to sort of help with that as it is antibacterial. (didn't work great, but worked a little) Now my daughter is 4 and this year I didn't have such bad problem.  I still need to use deoderant everyday -
    before kids I didn't- but I've switched to the unisex "Dry idea" brand.   I'm 39.  

    Are you on any birth control?  I'm wondering if the pill might help regulate your hormones.  Maybe the mini-pill might be enough to whack them back into place.   Or if you are on it, maybe it's causing the problems...

    I hope things go better for you, and I'm sorry you are going through this.

    • Birth control (0 / 0)

      Yeah, I've been pondering the birth control thing.  However, DH and I are going to start trying to get pregnant next week (yay!), so that's not an option right now.  I didn't go back on the pill after the first baby, but now I'm probably going to do it after my next (successful) pregnancy...

  • Isn't baby-making fun (0 / 0)

    I like the idea of plucking them from a cabbage patch...

    Anyway, I'd recommend seeing a couple of good specialists.  A really good internal medicine (adult medicine generalist) might be a good move, too.  Try finding a couple of well-respected endocrinologists for sure, and maybe another GI doc.  

    Re: diarrhea -- I always get diarrhea during my period.  It's not awful, but I do get it.  Try eliminating caffeine, eating gentle foods, etc.  Still, another workup by a GI doc might be nice.

    Re: breast pains -- it seems like someone should be able to give you pain management strategies.  Any breast specialist in your area?

    It's not my style, but I do know folks who have loved seeing naturopaths.  That'd be another option, although I think an endocrinologist in particular might be really helpful.

    Good luck!

  • All of the above (0 / 0)

    The things (many of which were already mentioned) that came into my mind:

    1. checking thyroid
    1. definitely getting a second opinion
    1. experiment with different deoderants. I just went through a phase of being super stinky, and it turns out it was the deoderant itself that was having a bad chemical reaction with me. Suddenly I'm not stinky anymore. That doesn't really address the sweating aspect so much... Also, sometimes I would get sore spots in my boob/underarm area, and it felt like lymph glands getting swollen. This also stopped happening after I switched deoderants the first time, from Dry Idea to a "natural" brand, Kiss My Face (which made me reek).
    1. Pregnancy made me have strong sensitivities to certain foods. Now I can't eat wheat anymore without paying the price later. You mention up from that you have amazingly bad eating habits. That sounds like a red flag. If your gut is in bad shape, that is the place to start. You may want to get checked for food sensitivities. Wheat tends to be a common culprit.
    1. Parasites--I don't know if you've traveled much, but parasites that can hang out in your body for many years can be activated by a stressful process like pregnancy. Checking for pylori is good, too.
    1. Gut health! I'd suggest you go on a crusade to improve your gut health, improving the "good" bacteria that lives there and functions as part of your immune system. I'm talking the "live cultures" in yogurt, which you can also take in pill form.

    Good luck! 35 is not old!!! You just gotta get a tune-up!

  • One more remedy for sweating (0 / 0)

    is using a solution of tea and soaking feet or hands in it once a day for about a week....don't know if those are problem areas for sweating for you, but those are common problem areas for many people who describe sweating too much...the tannin in tea helps to tamp down the sweat gland production.

  • Sweating away (0 / 0)

    I am a sweaty person too, and I just discovered this great stuff that is new to the market: clinical strength deodorant. I know is full of nasty chemicals, but it really helps. DH is also so sweaty that he gets a script for Drysol (a prescription deodorant). You're not alone in this. Ask your dr about it or try to over the counter stuff. I've had good luck with the one made by Secret.

    As for some of your other health issues, I really can't offer much help. But my mom dealth with IBS and found that a high fiber diet (oatmeal for breakfast, and now those fiber tabs/fiber drinks ) helped.

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