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Ever Heard The Legend of the Candy Cane?

Wed Dec 12, 2007 at 08:43:21 PM PDT

This afternoon, Grant came home from school and was eating a candy cane.  I asked him where he got it from and he told me his school librarian gave it to him.  I didn’t think much of it, as he began talking about how he thought he did well on his math test today.  

Later at dinner, he began to tell us about a book the librarian read to his second grade class during their library visit.  It’s called The Legend of the Candy Cane by Lori Walburg.  Apparently, it’s a children’s book that tells a story about a little girl who befriends an older man who opens a candy store in her town.   He then tells the girl that there’s deep symbolism in the candy cane.  

Disclaimer...I don’t own a copy of the book, so I’m going on what Grant has told me as well as information in some reviews from Amazon.  Okay... here goes:

The candy cane is the shape of a shepherd’s crook.
 
If you turn it upside down, it’s a letter “J” for Jesus.

The red on the candy cane represents the blood of Christ after his whipping.  According to one review (and my son confirmed this for me) there’s a picture of a roman guard with a whip and bloodied Christ in the book.  

And, the white in the candy cane is supposed to represent Jesus’ sacrifice which in turn makes us “white as snow”.    

Seriously... I am NOT making this up!  

After the story, the librarian passed out candy canes to all the students.  How disturbing is that?  As one reviewer on Amazon states... “Lick the blood of Christ!”

What really bothers me, is that my son thought this to be a work of non-fiction.  He believed every word of it.  I don’t blame him... he’s 7 ½.  After all... it was taught in school, so it has to be true, right?  

My husband says I shouldn’t make a big deal of it.  I love the school and the school district.  I’m fairly involved in the school and the PTO.  It upsets me that this has happened and that this librarian felt it appropriate to read to school children.  To be honest, I’m torn.  On the one hand I want to go marching in to the school and demand to talk to the principal.  I feel this book has no place in a public elementary school.  On the other hand, I’m afraid of any negative ramifications for my son at the school.  It’s pretty much a Christian conservative area and our family is the minority.  Maybe I don’t want to be singled out as being “anti-Christian”.  

What would you do, MotherTalkers?  Should I give ‘em hell, or should I just forget about it?

Tags: The Legend of the Candy Cane, Public School, Librarians, Lori Walburg, Christian Conservatives (all tags)

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  • This goes way back (0 / 0)

    I don't know about the book, but I definitely remember from the late 80s or early 90s seeing candy canes with this little typewritten explanation of the symbolism.  I am a Christian, and even this is just too icky-poo for me.  What would Jesus do?  I don't think he'd make people look for meaning in a piece of high-fructose corn syrup.

    I don't know what I'd do about the librarian situation.  Can you explain to Grant that it is not a true story, just something someone made up about a candy cane?  I would imagine at his age he just liked getting the candy, but it would still annoy me.  I prefer to teach my son about my beliefs at home, thank you, not with someone profiting on some crappy book.

  • asdf (0 / 0)

    That's gory. Gross. Still, Snopes says the whole thing is a bunch of hooey.

    I'd be ticked. If they want to teach myths and legends, they should identify them as such in an age appropriate manner, clearly enough for every child to realize it's pretend.

    I guess whether you say something depends on how much you want to stick out. I figure your chances of a desirable result are probably slim. If you say something to the librarian, well, her personal opinion probably got the book included in the school's library collection in the first place. If you sent a copy of Snopes along with your list of objections to the librarian, the teacher, the principal, and the school board, and since the area is predominantly Christian, do you think they'd call you a censorial, anti-Christian, Christmas hating, traitorous terrorist? Maybe ostracize your kid a little?

    Still, as one reviewer on Amazon says, "The separation of church and state is not a debatable issue - it is a constitutional right and fundamental to freedom," and so maybe a Mother Talker would be the best person to get this trash out of the public schools.

  • Hate to say it... (0 / 0)

    but whatever you do, Grant may never look at candy canes with sweet innocence again.  IMO, that alone is reason enough to be pissed.

  • hell (0 / 0)

    I may never look at candy canes with the same sweet innocence again. I mean, boy, can these fundies ruin a good piece of candy or what?!

    Seriously speaking, though, 1p1p, I'd be just as peeved and just as torn as you. Part of me would want to rip into that woman for overstepping her bounds as a public school employee and teaching your son something you didn't approve of. But part of me would also want to avoid making a fuss so as not to generate backlash. But then I think, we're in the mess we're in because we're too nice to make a fuss.

    So where does that leave you? I don't know, but I'd have a lot of sympathy for you whatever you decide to do.

  • letter to the principal (0 / 0)

    It's not cool.  It's a clear violation of the establishment clause, and let me tell you, if my Jewish kids were subjected to that, I would be more than pissed off.

    I would write a strongly worded letter to the principal and cc: the superintendant.  Don't threaten legal action or anything, but let them know that at least on parent out there knows her Constitution!

    • ITA (0 / 0)

      I think a letter to the librarian, with a copy to the principal, would be my tack.  

      Christmas in public schools is one of my major pet peeves - it's a wonderful, personal, religious holiday - but NOT part of the curriculum in public school (don't we have enough reading, writing, math, science, and social studies to worry about?).  All the Santas, and trees, and decorations in schools is one thing, but a blatantly, openly, proudly religious text in school is not an option.

      • less inflammatory (0 / 0)

        I guess your approach would be less inflammatory.

        Miles has a Jewish teacher this year, btw. He came home the Friday before Chanukah excited to share the news.  He insisted on making her a card and wanted to give her gelt, so I bought a full box of gelt that he could share with his entire class.  I think his teacher got a kick out of that, and then at some point in the day, several children made him Chanuka cards which were very cute (you can imagine the spellings of the holiday name!).

        I don't mind some kind of recognition of the fact that December is a festive month.  In the context of Miles's IB curriculum school, this is acheived with a nice "comparative cultures" kind of approach.  Within that framework, Miles sharing gelt and his holiday with the class seemed appropriate.  

        However, to have a teacher or a librarian impose a book like that on the kids is wrong. There are so many other books that would be more appropriate and still in keeping with the holiday spirit.

        • I was thinking the exact same thing... (0 / 0)

          I would have actually been okay with a story about Chanukah, Kwanzaa, Christmas, whatever.  In fact in Kindergarten, they talked about all of them.  I remember being thrilled that the school had done that.  I agree... it's a festive month and I don't mind that they talk about it in an appropriate way.  I don't think the candy cane lengend fits into what's appropriate here.  

    • The Candy Cane that Couldn't Stop Screaming (0 / 0)

      I'd like to recommend my friends' brand new Hanukkah book, "The Latke Who Wouldn't Stop Screaming." Maybe you could demand that in the interest of fairness, the second graders should read this as well as the creepy candy-cane book. :-)

  • Situation (0 / 0)

    If I was in your shoes, I would just let it go.  If you are already the minority in a Christian environment, as you've already written, there could be ramifications if you say something about this.  Ideally, of course, you would say something, but I think the town you are in does factor in.

    I would let it go and say to myself, "If it happens again..."

    • Dover, Delaware (0 / 0)

      Should those teachers and parents in Dover have just "let it go" when the right-wingers who took over their school board decided to try to inject Intelligent Design into the biology curriculum?  You can't get more Christian Conservative than Central Pennsylvania, where the Amish are considered a little liberal.

      I'm not saying she should stand outside the school with a placard, but I do think someone needs to speak up, however diplomatically, to let them know it's NOT cool.

      • Just (0 / 0)

        Just saying what I would do...

        I think if you make a decision to live in a conservative, ultra-Christian area, there are going to be drawbacks to that.  And yes, the right thing to is to speak up, but to think that there won't be repercussions for your kid might be unrealistic.

        So, you really have to weigh the pros and cons.  I personally, if it was one incident, would not do anything about this one if I was in 1p1p's shoes.  Of course, the fact that I am culturally Christian probably would play into that decision too.

    • I understand your point (0 / 0)

      about not wanting to make things worse, but I also wonder about setting a model for my children, who will always be in the minority in the US.  

      So, if there's a way to represent your view, to stick up for yourself, and to do it in a way that is not offensive and is respectful of other people - then I think I would be obligated to do it.

      My approach here wouldn't be "keep Christmas away" (although I might think that inside), but more "keep openly religious propoganda away", especially at this age.  My son, like Grant, would take what the teacher said very literally - no ability yet to truly filter truth/fantasy/legend.

      • It depends (0 / 0)

        It really depends where you live.  If you make a decision to live in a certain town, you are accepting the current realities of that town.

        I think a responsible parent has to weigh the possible repercussions against their family and standing up for what is right for all.  And I think it's ok to err on the side of not saying anything if that is best for your kids right now.  It's not ideal.  

        On the other extreme, you could call the Americans United for the Separation of Church and State and call a news conference with your local TV station.  But then you might as well call a real estate agent while you're at it.

        If it keeps going on and on, then, a person might want to consider saying something.  I'm just saying, if it was me, and a one-time thing, I would let it go.  But as I wrote to Hillary above, I am honest that the fact that I am culturally a Christian plays into this.    

        • P.S. (0 / 0)

          I am generally don't see the need to talk about any holiday in school in any way, shape or form.  I just don't see the need for it.  Kids don't need to be educated on holidays.  There is no way they won't hear about them even if the school doesn't teach it.  I really don't see the educational benefit in it.  

          That includes Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanza, Valentine's Day, Columbus Day, Thanksgiving and Halloween etc.  All of these holidays have potential to offend someone, so let's just get them all out.  If any of them are important to a family, then should celebrate it themselves at home.  Why does everything have to be celebrated multiple times?   The one exception is kids' birthdays, but even those should just be celebrated with some acknowledgment by the teacher and the main celebration should be at home.  

        • Wha? (0 / 0)

          This is the United States of America, no matter what neighborhood you live in. The Constitution applies everywhere.  

          That was my point about Dover, Pennsylvania (I hadn't had my coffee when I wrote "Delaware" this morning!).  It's a very Christian and conservative area, but it's still America, and the separation of church and state still applies.  The battle had to be fought there in order to ensure the constitutional rights of all Americans.

          • Sure (0 / 0)

            Sure, it is the U.S., but I think that it's ok to make a decision not to always speak out if there are going to be serious repercussions to your family.  Everyone has to make their own call on what the balance is here.  

            Not specific to 1p1p's town, but in general, if you move to a conservative area, things aren't going to be just the way you want them.  You can speak out of course, but if there are going to be repercussions to your family and children, it is ok to stay quiet too.

            In this case, as 1p1p wrote, she made the call to say something and it seems to have been received well and kudos to her.

            I also admire those in Delaware who spoke out.  I'm not saying I would never speak out, but I wouldn't always speak out either, depending on our situation.

  • On another (lighter) note (0 / 0)

    The primary "story" of Hannukah is about the oil that was supposed to last only one day, but miraculously lasted eight days (long enough to get more oil).  This is the "Miracle of Hannukah" and a major part of the whole week.

    So, imagine our family's surprise (especially my 8yo) when my 16yo came home from Temple and said the Rabbi said that story is not "true" - it's an allegory, taught by ancient rabbis to teach a lesson (like most biblical and post-biblical stories, I guess).  The real story of Hannukah is basically a war story - little guys beat the bigs guys, but a war story nonetheless - and was less wonderful to pass on generation to generation.

    Finding out the oil story is "fake" is a little like finding out there's no Santa or no Tooth Fairy.  LOL

    • I think it's wonderful (0 / 0)

      that the rabbi in your temple is willing to say that it's an allegory. The message that even though the story isn't literally true, there is still power and meaning is wonderful - that religious faith/identiy isn't tied to accepting doctrine word for word! What a mensch!

  • Print the Snopes page (0 / 0)

    and give it to the school...that's what I did. I left a copy of it in the administrator's mail box at my DDs preschool.

  • I would be PO'd (0 / 0)

    and I'd let everyone know about it. People in general and in MN specifically are way too concerned with not making waves, so that's how this stuff takes root. Beyond the fact that this story clearly promotes a particular religious belief, it is just yucky. Honestly-- do 7 year-olds really need to hear how some guy was beaten and tortured?

    I went to 12 years of Catholic school and never once heard this particular myth surrounding candy canes. Christmas was all about the angel, the donkey, the baby in the manger, the shepherds, and the kings. Nobody got beat up on Christmas . . . that was Easter!

    • Me neither (0 / 0)

      Never heard this one growing up!

      Easter, well that's a whole other story.  Looking back, I can't believe that kids sit through the Stations of the Cross!

      • The stations (0 / 0)

        Lord how I hated stations of the cross time. Time seemed to stop entirely. Upon occasion, I could count on my bizarre allergies to free me-- the priest loved incense and stunk up the whole church in a fragrant haze, which made my nose bleed, which meant I got to go to the nurse's office. Freedom!

  • Every. Friday. Night. (0 / 0)

    during lent.  EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT we went to stations.  my whole childhood LOL

  • How Christian? How conservative? How minority? (0 / 0)

    My survival strategy as a kid living somewhere that felt like I was the only non-Christian non-conservative was to sit down, shut up, and hope nobody noticed me.  Nod and smile, and slip through the cracks.  Say the pledge of allegiance without a grimace.  Make excuses for not being in the Boy Scouts.  And wait until my family moved... oh sweet relief!  Actually I thought life was fine until we moved and then I realized how bad it had been before.

    I think it depends a lot on just how much of a minority you are in the community, and what kind of attitudes the majority has.  

    good luck...

    • Well.... (0 / 0)

      I think more people like me will move out here eventually.  I know of a couple liberals out my way and yes, we are the minority for now.  But, the growth northwestward from Columbus will eventually make it's way out here.  I already see evidence of this.  There's a nice affluent town 7 miles west of us.  A lot of the people that have moved here recently saw how much more house they were getting for their money as compared to the affluent suburb.... which by the way is creeping westward towards us too.  I don't think this town will stay small and rural forever.  

      • Sounds good (0 / 0)

        Perhaps approaching from the 'family values' angle would work then, as others have suggested.  Maybe you could canvass other parents' opinion in the PTO from the perspective of the story being false and gory, and 'feel out' the reaction that way.  As in, "Hey, did the librarian read that candy cane story to your kid too?  My kid won't eat candy canes anymore because he thinks they're made with blood.  Why are they reading something so icky in school?"  

           

      • i wonder how many times (0 / 0)

        you're going to have to deal with things like this? Here we just hold our breath and mumble our way through because if we made noise every time something happened like what you're describing, we'd be writing letters all the time and would soon be known as Those Crazy Heathens. Not optimal.

        I'd say if this is a rarity, by all means write a letter and nip it in the bud. If it's one of many, well, there may be a certain amount of hunkering down to do.

        It's so weird and alienating to have our own private culture distinct from the entire rest of the community, but it's a lifelong experience that I suppose we need to start training our kids for now. Which is why DH and i will be looking for work in Austin this spring... we just can't take it anymore!

        if you wobba cypress trees then I will wobba you

        by thais on Thu Dec 13, 2007 at 07:20:40 AM PDT

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  • I would also be upset (0 / 0)

    and I would definitely take action.  There is a big difference between sharing holiday stories and festivities in public school, and telling graphic, violent, gory stories to little children in the name of "Jesus".

    The fact that the librarian feels it is appropriate is a non factor, and there may be lots of parents who do not know that this is being taught.

    If it were me, I would print the Snopes page, attach a formal letter requesting that the book be removed from the library, copy the prinicpal, the librarian, and possibly the district's superintendent of instruction.  Give them 10 days to respond.  

    I have been down this road with my daughter's school so feel free to shoot me an email if you need some help.

    "In the face of impossible odds, people who love their country can change it."--Barack Obama

    by heathennextdoor on Thu Dec 13, 2007 at 06:31:26 AM PDT

  • I Say Stand Up (0 / 0)

    My 2 cents is that you have to stand up sometimes and have your say.  I don't mean that you have to call a news conference and all, but you should definately send a letter and a highlighted copy of the Constitution to the principal and possibly the school board.  There are also probably state and local statutes that cover the topic of separation of church and state.  The principal may be unaware that this went on, and if they have a bit of sense, will have a talk with the librarian about it.  I bet that there may be more parents in your area with your beliefs than may be public about it. Either way, I understand that you are between a rock and a hard place, and the worst part is that you now have to deal with talking to your son about this gory, inappropriate story.  I would make sure to mention that in my letter.  I'm hoping for the best for you!

  • Thanks, everyone... (0 / 0)

    I just sent off a letter to the principal. I'm hoping that's enough.  I agree... I don't think making a big stink is a good idea, but after reading the comments and reflecting on it, I think a letter's appropriate.  

    Here's what I sent:

    Dear Mrs. Hicks:

    Yesterday, my son Grant came home with a candy cane.  I asked him where he got it, and he told me Mrs. Yates, the school librarian gave it to him.  I didn’t think much of it, as his second grade class had library time and figured she was just passing them out to the students.  

    At dinner, he told us about the book that was read to him during library time called The Legend of the Candy Cane.  He told us all about how the candy cane came to be and that it’s a religious symbol.  He specifically mentioned that the red in the candy cane represents the blood of Christ after his whipping and that the white represents how he died for our sins and made us all "pure and white as snow".  He also told us that the candy cane turned upside down is a "J" for Jesus and right side up is a shepherd’s staff.   This book really made an impression on him as he told us that it was NON-FICTION.   I was quick to tell him that it was just a story, and that it wasn’t indeed true.  

    It’s hard to know where to start with what’s wrong here.  First of all, I don’t think young public school children need to hear such a gory story.  Taking an innocent confection like a candy cane and filling it with false religious symbolism like the blood of Christ is very disturbing.  

    I decided to investigate the book further.  A quick Google search reveals that it’s listed on Snopes, a popular debunker website:  http://www.snopes.com/...

    As you can see, this story has no basis in facts.  My son is 7 ½ years old.  If he hears something taught to him in school by a teacher, he’s going to think it’s true.  I think that’s the part that bothers me the most.  He came away thinking the story was indeed fact.  

    Let me also state that I am not anti-Christian.  I actually would have been fine with a story about the nativity.  I also welcome holiday stories from other cultures like Judaism, Muslim, and Kwanzaa faiths.  But this isn’t even a Christmas story, as the blood of Christ is usually associated with Easter.  I really don’t think it has a place in a public school library.  If someone wants to believe this story, then perhaps it’s best told in that person’s home away from a school setting.

    You know... normally, I couldn’t be happier with the school and it’s teachers.  It’s actually my favorite thing about living in Plain City.  My hope is that this is an isolated incident.  I would not be happy if this sort of thing became commonplace in my children’s education.

    Sincerely

    As some of you have said, even some Christians aren't comforatable with it.  There might be more people annoyed with it than I realize.  

  • Don't let it go (0 / 0)

    I would probably do one of these two things, depending on the culture of the school and how you think the principal would respond.

    1. Write a letter to the librarian and deliver it with a donation of several books that are about different religions.  Explain that you're uncomfortable with this being read to the whole class, but that you're fine with it being in the library as long as there are many books about different religious traditions.  Saying it should be taken out of the library (as suggested above) is a dangerous step towards censorship.
    1. Do #1, but cc the principal in the letter as an "FYI" (like someone mentioned above).  

    I would avoid going directly to the top.  I'm a teacher and always prefer that parents address concerns specifically with me.  If you feel like the principal would support you in this, I would keep him/her in the loop since someone in the school would be able to make sure this doesn't continue.

    I would be sure to approach this as a "I don't know what really happened, but this is what my kid told me."  It sounds like you're probably getting the whole story here, but it's hard as a teacher when kids are relaying information and facts are not accurate, so be sure to give the librarian a chance to explain.

    I think your approach will affect how things are received, so be generous, forgiving, and give the benefit of the doubt when possible, but don't just let it go since it sounds really inappropriate to me.

    Please follow up with an update!

  • Librarian must be called on this (0 / 0)

    I've only read the first eight comments on this posting.... I think you are getting the gist of what everyone is saying. It really is your obligation to approach the librarian (I would go to her first be/c in my experience, when you go to a supervisor before talking to the teacher, the teacher really does get defensive and then it all becomes pretty unproductive). I would ask her right out, not in an accusatory way, but in a way that you say you must have misunderstood your 7 year old but from what he told you he had learned in school, it seemed extremely inappropriate curriculum and you were just following up. Then it gives her a chance to explain -- then you can have a nonthreatening discussion with her... and then you could mention it to the principal as more of a policy issue: what is the school's policy regarding the discussion of holidays this time of year?

    Although we don't live in a conservative Christian area, being Jewish, we are in such a small minority that when my kids were in elementary school, it was always an issue- I spoke up immediately when my son started kindergarten 15 years ago. My youngest left the elementary school 4 years ago - and there were two kids in between them -- I am pretty proud to say that my legacy to that school was a creating a sensitivity to diversity and an appreciation for all faiths. It took determination, but I did it.

    Make your meeting with the librarian, principal of officials productive and worthwhile -- it may be a starting place for a discussion and change in your school .. and most importantly you are modeling for your child. Good Luck.

    Leslie www.minivan-diaries.blogspot.com

    by Leslie on Thu Dec 13, 2007 at 08:01:15 AM PDT

  • Principal's Response (0 / 0)

    Thank you for letting me know. I was unaware this story was shared by the library aide. I'll address your concerns with her. Especially the NON-FICTION part :)

    I'm pleased to see that she responded quickly and that she feels it's important to address it with the library aide.  

    I'm glad I contacted her about this.  Thanks to all of you... for supporting me and solidifying my feelings to speak up.

  • I am surprised (0 / 0)

    Doubly so by the fact that it was the school librarian who shared this story. I know that here in the Dallas area there is always a big to do over students trying to hand out candy canes with the story of the candy canes meaning and every year the school districts do not allow it due to the religious nature of the story(that it happens every single year leads me to wonder if this candy cane distribution is the idea of students,which I doubt,or the work of different religious organizations that want to bring attention to their cause which, is another topic entirely)at any rate I am truly surprised that a public school employee shared a religious story,outside of use within a historical context,with elementary school students.

  • wow. (0 / 0)

    never heard that lil ole tale.  reminds me of a baby book my ex MIL sent my then 2 year old daughter.  it was very brutal description of  christ's crucifixion and i was baffled as to how she thought it appropriate for a 2 year old.  i simply tucked it away.

    however, i wouldn't let a public school get away with this one.  congrats for taking this on.

  • Give 'em hell, Hil! (0 / 0)

    Good for you for speaking up.

  • Thanks! (0 / 0)

    I'm really glad you decided to act. As an agnostic, I want to second what Hillary said:

    As a member of a religious minority, I also personally appreciate you standing up and speaking out.

    There's a dignified place between "giving them hell" and sucking it up, and you found it.

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