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The "Push Present"

Tue Dec 11, 2007 at 09:19:37 AM PDT

The New York Times reports today on a (supposed) trend toward pregnant women expecting an expensive gift from their partners following or near their delivery.  New fathers are apparently expected to provide expensive jewelry, new hot tubs, sculptures or other similarly lavish gifts to the new mother because of the "gift" she is giving him of carrying their child.

WHEN Jena Slosberg of Bedford, N.H., gave birth in March, she endured a labor that lasted 17 hours. But her discomfort was ultimately worth it, quite apart from the arrival of her daughter, Marin. In the recovery room, her husband, Paul, presented her with a pair of diamond earrings.

“I was on cloud nine,” Ms. Slosberg said. “It was the perfect present to make a frazzled, sleep-deprived, first-time mommy feel absolutely glamorous.”

She added, “I wonder what 17 hours of labor will get me next time?”

In a more innocent age, new mothers generally considered their babies to be the greatest gift imaginable. Today, they are likely to want some sort of tangible bonus as well.

"Push present" - creative name, eh?  Inappropriate for those who had a c-section, but hey.

A recent survey of more than 30,000 respondents by BabyCenter.com found that 38 percent of new mothers received a gift from their mate in connection with their child. Among pregnant mothers, 55 percent wanted one. About 40 percent of both groups said the baby was ample reward.

This bonus goes by various names. Some call it the “baby mama gift.” Others refer to it as the “baby bauble.” But it’s most popularly known as the “push present.”

Some people criticize the "trend" - if it is, indeed, a trend at all - as just another example of materialism run rampant.

“This isn’t the time to give a $200 piece of jewelry,” said Rhonda Grote, president of ThinkThoughtful.com, an online gift consulting company in Bradenton, Fla. “I do not think that because a woman has had a baby she requires a Tiffany & Company item. She requires help, love and emotional support.”

Ray Mears of Grand Haven, Mich., didn’t give his wife, Beth, gifts for any of their three children, the most recent of them in July. And that’s fine with both of them. “It’s a really bizarre and unnecessary thing for a woman to expect,” Ms. Mears said. “For one thing, lots of people are giving gifts to the mom, baby and entire family. Also, there’s a lot going on when a new baby is expected. It’s just not a nice time for a woman to demand that her partner get creative and think of ‘the perfect gift.’”

Did you expect or receive a "push present" from your spouse/partner after giving birth? Do you think this is something new mothers should expect?  

The article doesn't address where adoptive families fit into the equation, as they seem to imply the gift is supposed to be sort of a reward for the discomfort of pregnancy, which I might have imagined was actually the child, but never mind.

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  • Ugh (0 / 0)

    I saw this.  

    Rampant materialism in my opinion.  I don't mind a spouse buying a new mom a nice gift from the heart, but to think that this could become some sort of standard expectation, yuck.

    Kind of like the old engagement ring.  Nice if you want one, but that it's become standard.  Why.

  • Come on! (0 / 0)

    I was cracking up because I couldn't help but think this is something a few (rich) people do and according to the New York Times it is trend!

    Still, I joked with DH, where are my diamond earrings from Tiffany's for delivering your babies?? I was joking with him of course. Except for my wedding ring, I am NOT a diamond person and would rather save the money. Like someone said in the story, I would rather have someone be there for me emotionally and help out than give me a gift in the delivery room. It's not like you are going to have time to be glamorous anyway.

    • i agree! (0 / 0)

      forget the diamonds. save the money for babysitters, massages, and dinners out with my hubby!

      seriously, this is tacky. there's nothing like the day of a child's birth in a couple's life together. i don't see how giving even the most lavish present could come close to those feelings.

  • Oh YUCK (0 / 0)

    The best present a father can give to the mother of his baby is the gift of committed, loving fatherhood.  

    This article is disturbing on so many levels, it reminds me of the whole princess mentality that was being discussed here a couple of days ago.

    "In the face of impossible odds, people who love their country can change it."--Barack Obama

    by heathennextdoor on Tue Dec 11, 2007 at 09:52:42 AM PDT

  • I wouldn't expect a push present... (0 / 0)

    ...but I certainly wouldn't mind if DH sprung one on me. :-)

    I first read about push presents shortly after I gave birth to my daughter. I thought it was just another marketing ploy...another "excuse" for men to go out and buy their women expensive jewelry. Totally arbitrary, like the "two months salary" guide for the price of the engagement ring (WTF?).

    But I do think that a carefully chosen gift, if it comes from the heart, is a sweet gesture. My most prized piece of jewelry is a silver necklace with freshwater pearls from my first Mother's Day. It has a pendant with Maya's picture in it, and I wear it just about every day.

  • I feel about this (0 / 0)

    the way I feel about kids who expect a big present when they graduate from college.  Hey mom & dad, I've spent all your money, been drunk for four years, squeaked by in that Calc 102 class and had an awesome spring break -- and b/c I managed to show up for most of my classes (even with a killer hangover dude) I now expect you to buy me a car....

    I hate stuff like this.

  • Mommy gifts (0 / 0)

    are fairly common among my friends. I got a really nice diamond & emerald ring (DS's birthstone) when he was born.

    I don't think of it as rampant materialism-- unless you happen to be a materialistic person. The fact is, once the baby is born, the liquid funds dry up-- best to buy a nice something for yourself before every spare dollar goes to college funds and formula and new car seats. I got DH a Daddy gift too-- a nice camera.

    I don't really want jewelry this time around-- aware as I am now of the ethical implications-- so I think we will take a nice vacation somewhere for our Mommy/Daddy gifts.

    Tell me again what's wrong with giving gifts to your spouse to mark a momentous occasion?

    • from the heart (0 / 0)

      I think something from the heart is wonderful.  Something that reflects the actual woman, not the generic idea of what a woman is or what she wants.  For some women, jewelry is the perfect special occasion gift.  For others, not so much.  

      I would have loved a treadmill when I had Miles.  Of course, we were living in a one-bedroom apartment at the time, so I don't know where I would have put it.  But that would have been handy!

      We were having a discussion about this on Offsprung that was more around the question of jewelry as a token of "ownership" or to level the balance of power in a male/female relationship.  I'm not totally sold on on Amanda's ideas but it was food for thought.

      My own feeling about it is the whole "expectation" aspect is what could be inappropriate.  If it becomes something else to toss into the one-ups-woman-ship (if I may coin a term) of becoming a mother, then it's not cool.

      • quote (0 / 0)

        Say you’re a woman who just got engaged. Literally 99% of the women you’re going to encounter are going to demand to see the ring, and if you don’t produce one, you’re stuck with one of two choices: Let everyone pity you because your fiance doesn’t love you, or be a rude asshole and indict their entire values system by carefully explaining that you wouldn’t wear a diamond leash even if he did give it to you. No wonder it’s easier to just give in.

        From your link, this is a good quote.  

        • I guess my problem (0 / 0)

          is that I have little trouble "indictingh their entire values system".  

        • I did not have an engagement ring (0 / 0)

          and I only had one person ask me to see it.

          So I don't agree that 99% will demand to see the ring. Of course maybe the other people looked at my finger surreptitiously and didn't see one so they didn't bother to ask?  Who knows.

          • No engagement ring either (0 / 0)

            I'm not into jewelry so it seemed silly.  I have a simple platinum band for my wedding ring and appreciate its symbolism.  I don't think I need a certain kind of jewelry to show how much my husband loves me (or I him).

            DH and I are more of the go out and have a delicious meal together type or rent a cabin and snowboard, rather than gifts.  Poor DH, he's been trained to appreciate flannel pajamas as his "big gift" for Christmas.

          • Me too (0 / 0)

            I didn't have an engagement ring, and no one demanded to see it.

            I didn't need to be self-righteous or indict someone's belief system when I've been in the company of women looking at each other's wedding rings, etc.

            I'm not into diamonds, never have been. Even before I knew about some of the yucky aspects of the diamond trade. I've found that other women don't take it personally that I'm "not a diamond person." At worst (and I rarely encounter this), someone may gasp as though not liking diamonds is akin to not liking chocolate.

            The idea of a push present kind of grosses me out, but I'm not entirely sure why. I think it's just personal preference. In general, my husband and I don't mark momentous or pivotal occasions with jewelry. The birth of our child was momentous enough! There was no one to thank but God, and maybe my midwife...

    • untitled (0 / 0)

      I think it's nice if it comes from the heart.  

      But if it becomes an expectation like engagement rings are, where it's expected and people think you're weird for not getting one or poor, then it loses it's "from the heart" quality.

  • Wow. Why didn't someone think of this (0 / 0)

    sooner?  I have seven kids...I could have been quite wealthy by now.  Ofcourse, we'd probably be living in a shack, but I'd have jewelry for all occasions...

  • I just want to know (0 / 0)

    what you can get at Tiffany's for $200. Did someone leave off a zero?

  • my present (0 / 0)

    Not exactly a push present - maybe a "pushed for adoption" present? - was a trip to China. I drank jasmine tea in the snow on the Great Wall.I ate dumplings at some little hole-in-the-wall place in a Beijing alley. I strolled around Beijing University and climbed Fragrant Hills Park. I got to be the first foreigner my friend Jing's daughter had ever met.And then, in Nanjing, someone handed me the most wonderful baby in the whole world.

  • My gifts (0 / 0)

    DH got me a nice new camera when we had our first child.  Perfect because he knew I would want to go crazy with the photos.

    We just had our 2nd three months ago, and to surprise me, he contacted my oldest friend who lives on the other side of the country and told her he would fly us both anywhere we wanted to go for a girls' weekend, once I was ready to travel.

    I didn't expect to get presents, but he used both births as occasions to do something extra special for me.  He's pretty awesome.  (Even if he was on my sh#*list this weekend.)

  • Not my style (0 / 0)

    I'd prefer a husband to do lots of dishes, laundry, diaper changing and bottle-feeding if applicable.  Good help over a bauble any day.   That said, we did buy a new camera before our first was born.  

    • I'll take both. (0 / 0)

      The gifts and the help. Crap, why do we think of it as "help?" It's his damn house/kids too!

      • Seriously (0 / 0)

        ITA on both counts. The "help" part comes from ... being the husband and father.

        A gift to mark the occasion is lovely. I am currently designing a ring for my second Mother's Day that includes all three birthstones. I like the sentiment of a birthstone something for mom. It's sweet. I like to imagine ds giving it to his daughter or granddaughter someday.

      • Inadequate paternity leave leads to "help" (0 / 0)

        For many women I know, inadequate paternity leave leads to their husbands 'helping' rather than being equal partners in newborn childcare.  It's not the way it should be, but if your husband is working, or god-forbid traveling, 50-70 hour work weeks then he might not be able to contribute his 'fair share'.

        With our first, DH happened to have lots of vacation time saved up and took off 6 weeks.  It was fabulous.  With our second he'd just switched jobs and was only able to take 2 weeks off (one of which we traveled for the adoption during).  He did admirably during the 'night shift' - each and every night for months, but I certainly did more baby care during the day since I was home on maternity leave.  When he came home at night I did appreciate his help, just like he appreciates my help when he and I are both home with the kids!

    • Yes... (0 / 0)

      I'd like the gift of sleep, thanks.

  • Oh, I got one! (0 / 0)

    After 10 miserable months, and labor that left me sore for a week, DH darn tootin' got me a gift!  A beautiful necklace with my birthstone and DD's.  I love it, and wear it often.  I didn't need to tell him, because all my friends at the time had gotten one.  He picked up the clues.

    I embrace materialism from time to time.

    • Me too (0 / 0)

      I got a bracelet- perfect and pretty, not a break-the-bank kind, but I told DH I expected SOMETHING from him to mark the occasion. Hey, I'm wearing it now :) It'll be DD when she has an occasion worth marking someday. I love my gift.

      I got DH a digital picture frame, so it was mutual gift giving.

  • My dad did for my mom, 35 years ago (0 / 0)

    When I was born, my dad gave my mom a set of emerald earrings and a necklace.  I was the first and they were young and in love, or something like that. ;) My mom gave that set to me when I was in college - I had the earrings added to the setting on my wedding ring and I love having something that represents the family I came from along with the family we have created on my ring.

  • this whole discussion is so far outside (0 / 0)

    my experiences it's frustrating.  I had to do major financial planning just to have a second child (planning years in advance) including calculating the EITC I would receive to help pay off the medical bills.  Vacations?  Jewelry?  BS.  

    Trust me, the beautiful healthy baby is the present.

  • A gift (0 / 0)

    on such an occasion sounds like a wondeful and holy thing.  

    This whole weird, crazy, materialistic approach to gifts and expressing freaks me out.  Hey, diamond merchants, every kiss doen't begin with overpriced bullshit.

  • My MIL got the push present (0 / 0)

    I'm serious, she did! Every time there's a new grandchild, my FIL buys her a gold, be-diamoned charm in the shape of a baby.  

  • I got flowers (0 / 0)

    and I was thrilled that he thought to bring them to me. I didn't ask for nor did I want any expensive bauble, but that's just me. Those two kids being healthy after all the infertility treatments, surgeries, and waiting -- that was the real gift for me.

    I am not an "expensive jewelry" person, either. Much rather spend the money on a vacation somewhere fabulous.

    • Must admit (0 / 0)

      I was a tiny bit hurt that DH didn't show up with flowers following either delivery.  I didn't expect much, but I'd been through the ringer and a daisy or a rose or something would have been a nice gesture- especially since he was king of the flower giving up to that point.  I should have realized that giving birth meant the end of flowers forever.  Now I get a new rug for the kitchen or a workout clothes- not that I"m complaining- there just isn't the cash for both the practical and the flower-ful.

  • I laughed my ar$e off (0 / 0)

    when I saw this article. I love the NYT's chutzpah - I'm sure this is how it went: one or two of the Style section reporters have friends who got "push presents," ergo, it's a national trend. Tiffany's is more than happy to contribute and say "sure, sure, push presents. All the rage now. Must be done."

    DH asked me if he could get me a present when Jess was born, but I said no because it didn't feel appropriate, and really, aside from me doing the work in labor, he's just as much on the hook as I am. He got me/us a beautiful new camera instead - it gets more use than a diamond would!

    • camera (0 / 0)

      that's a great idea for a gift! i take way more pictures now that i have kids than i did before.

    • We did that (0 / 0)

      We purchased our first digital camera about a week or so before DS1's due date.  It was very practical and something we really enjoyed with our new baby.  We inherited an even better camera last Christmas when my dad the camera buff upgraded his digital so now my brother has our baby present to each other.  At least it's still in the family.

      I did receive a very nice ring with my first son's birthstone in a small heart shaped setting for my first Valentine's Day with a baby.  We didn't have the money for that after DS2 but it would be nice to update the setting to include all of the children's birthstones.  Luckily they all came on semi-precious months so it shouldn't be too bad.  

      I lucked out with my own birthstone.  As a September baby I have a sapphire and my favorite color is blue.  My parents bought me some nice pieces over the years although I rarely wear jewelry anyway.

  • This is even worse (0 / 0)

    I heard about this about a year ago, and I jokingly said to the person, "Well, I had a c-section and didn't push, so I guess I get nothing."  And she said, "No, then it's called a 'gash gift'."  That sort of creeped me out.

    I love jewelry, but not necessarily sparkly things. I like different or handmade items.  I have several pieces that symbolize DS, either with his birthstone, name, or initial.  But I get them when I see them.  I don't wait around for Mother's Day or whatever and hope I'm getting it.  For special occasions, I like to be with my loved ones and that's about it.

    • a ... gash ... gift??? (0 / 0)

      seriously, am I the only one feeling grossed out by the implicit double entrendre? EEEEEWWWWWWWW!

      • Not the only one. (0 / 0)

        I'm shuddering over here. Thanks for the reminder of the way that I gave birth. Very nice. Ick.

        When my sil had her baby (unplanned, unmarried, unhappy daddy that raged about how it was her fault for nine months), the daddy gave her a pearl ring when the baby was born. My mil had the gall to turn to my DH (her son!) and say "I hope you do that when it's your turn." For once, I actually piped up and said "He'd damn well better behave a sight better than that when I get pregnant...and then he won't need to buy me presents!". She looked a bit abashed at that...

        I don't know why, but I feel a bit offended at the idea of a present when a baby is born. A bit like I'm being paid off, maybe? Like I was this uterus that carried his precious child and I need payment for that? I'm not sure...but it doesn't sit well with me.

        Now a sentimental gift between the two of you..that's very different. No issues there.

        • I'm not so bothered (0 / 0)

          by the way I gave birth.  I'm one of those crazy gals who wanted a c-section anyway, and by the time the whole way-preterm labor nightmare was over, I was just grateful DS was born at all.  But it just made me cringe that there has to be this cutesy, alliterative term for something that should be personal & graciously given & accepted, not expected as an example of proper behavior. I would be mortified if someone noticed a lovely piece of jewelry I was wearing and asked if it was my push present or gash gift or birth bait or whatever you want to name it.  Simply uncalled for.

          • geez (0 / 0)

            that's right - I remember the whole discussion about planned C-sections and giving comfort through having control. Seems like a millenium ago...

            Personally, none of my business; I don't really care if someone else wants a present for birthing a baby. It doesn't hurt me or mine, so I'm not going to get worked up about it. But the name gash gift?! So, so, so hating that. Just foul.

            • Exact-a-mundo (0 / 0)

              The whole idea that women need to be "bought," whether that's for sex or housekeeping or birthing or whatever, is really horrible & nasty.  Anyone can have her present to commemorate the big day, but please give it a more dignified name.

          • Not the way I gave birth... (0 / 0)

            Just the word "gash". Incision, cut, surgery, sure. Gash just sounds terrible!!

    • Then I should have gotten BOTH! (0 / 0)

      Yet, I got nada. I'll put this in my Big Book of Grievances.

      Actually, both terms are crass and tacky, and I dislike them both intensely. I got a piece of jewelry for my first anniversary, and a friend referred to it as my push present, and I quickly and definitively set that straight.

      Yuck.

      RachelD

      • Crass & tacky (0 / 0)

        Those are definitely the words for it.  Yet we are led to believe the wealthy & privileged, in other words, the "best" people, are behind this trend.  One of the biggest lessons I've learned as an adult is money does not buy you class.

  • Seriously? (0 / 0)

    I had my one and only 16 years ago and we were so broke I was surprised my hubby even brought me flowers.
    Who are these folks who can afford a present when they have this very new, and expensive, addition to the family?
    Seriously this sounds like something from one of those trashy romance novels where the hero gifts the heroine some old family emeralds at the birth of his heir.

    (long time lurker to this board and I spend a lot of time reading the posts here saying "seriously?" or "really?" when it comes to some of the more $$$$ things that seem to go with having little ones nowdays....that makes me sound so old , like saying "when I was your age I walked to school in the snow, 10 miles, uphill, both ways".)

    • there is that, isn't there (0 / 0)

      it just seems anachronistic, as if we're being rewarded for doing what is our biological responsiblity.

      I don't think you're the only one saying "no, really??" so don't feel old! I mean, I have a 2 year old and I spend a great deal of my time doing that. Mostly I just find it amusing.

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