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Undocumented Residents

Fri Nov 02, 2007 at 09:14:58 AM PDT

This past weekend I lived an unwelcome nightmare.  At 10:26pm on Saturday night I answered our ringing phone to hear the roar of  freeway noise like a runaway freight train carrying the sound of my son's voice over a bad cellular connection shouting "Mom I NEED YOUR HELP."  

My son, a 21 year old college student, had left San Diego on Thursday due to the catastrophic fires that forced a week's closure of the school he attends.  He traveled north to visit friends in San Luis Obispo, returning Saturday to avoid heavier traffic on Sunday.

Through the terrifying phone call, my dh and I gleaned that he had been traveling 65 mph in moderate traffic on the right hand lane of the freeway.  He said he had been watching the flow of traffic closely but was also trying to keep track of signage on the freeway as he wasn't totally familiar with the area - south central LA.  To his complete shock and surprise, a vehicle in front of him came to a virtual stop for no apparent reason.  He had looked up at an exit sign and when he looked back to the road, he realized he was going to rear-end the car in front of him which he did.  His airbag deployed, burning his arm, and the front end of the car was crumpled up to the dashboard.   He exited the car and ran to the car he hit, both his and their vehicle were now pulled over to the side and a short distance apart.

Both occupants of the other car appeared ok, but when he tried to talk to them, he discovered they did not speak English and so he told them in Spanish that he had called 911 and the police would be on their way.  Unbeknownst to us, he also had been trying to call our home for about a half hour but we hadn't heard the phone.  

By the time he did reach us, he had gathered his belongings out of the car, and had scrambled up the freeway embankment to get off the road and wait for help.

My fear for his safety overwhelmed me.  In addition to the obvious concern about the accident, he was located in an area known for violence.  The cell connection was horrible, the sound of the freeway swallowing his voice.  I don't remember a time I felt so helpless

As we talked (yelling into the phone), he suddenly screamed, "Mom, the other car is leaving, WHAT???, they are just taking off...OH MY GOD, why are they leaving?  What am I going to do?"

Well.  There was nothing he could do.  So he sat waiting for help on the side of the freeway for 2 hours in the dark.  After his call to 911, I  called from our location in northern California in the hope that somehow I could further the effort to get CHP to dispatch help.  I was given an incorrect number, put on hold for 20 minutes and then finally reached an actual person who said "Well, does he need a medic?  We're busy you know."

OHMYGOD.  This is our safety net when there has been a serious accident on a well-traveled freeway?  Holy Shit.  Finally, a tow-truck arrived and brought him and the car to an autobody shop located nearby, which still left him in a very tough situation of having no vehicle and nowhere to go. No other help arrived.

I bow down to technology that let us transfer money to his ATM account in the middle of the night so that ultimately he was able to get a cab after being towed, and travel to the LA airport where he half-slept on the floor until 5:00 that morning at which time he bought a ticket on a flight bound for San Diego at 6:30am.

This nightmarish scenario has led me to all sorts of thoughts regarding WHY did the other vehicle leave and what then can I deduce from this situation when trying to consider the political firestorm around undocumented residents and the question of  being legally licensed to drive if you are in this country illegally?  The only reasons I can imagine that the other driver left since my son would technically have been at fault is that the occupants of the car were here illegally or did not have the appropriate license or insurance required by law.  I can't say I have any answers but I have a barrell full of questions.  What say you MTers about undocumented residents receiving a legal license to drive?  So many questions this prompts in my head and it is being bandied about daily by our presidential candidates and news reports.  Please do share.

Tags: undocumented residents, car accidents, fear, support services (all tags)

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  • So sorry! (0 / 0)

    What a terrifying experience for you, DH and your son!

    I'd be willing to guess that your idea, "The only reasons I can imagine that the other driver left since my son would technically have been at fault is that the occupants of the car were here illegally or did not have the appropriate license or insurance required by law," is probably accurate.  This sees commonplace in poorer areas (I grew up in LA and worked in Watts), either because the people can't afford insurance or are undocumented.

    I'm all for giving licenses to people regardless of their status, and allowing them to be insured as well.  Then, perhaps, situations like this could be avoided.

    Hugs to you all!

  • Karen, (0 / 0)

    I'm so glad your son is all right...its scary being the parent of young adults, isn't it?  When these type of incidence occur with my children, I like to tell myself that its all a life lesson...they're getting the opportunity to see for themselves why we take politics seriously.  

    I essentially agree with Hillary Clinton on the drivers license issue.  Its a matter of public safety and its also a starting point in getting people to come out of the shadows so we can maybe glean a bit of reliable information about who's here, in what numbers, and where they're at.  We need this information to move forward in making policy.  

    • Seriously, (0 / 0)

      I can tell you your kids are lucky to have you as folks.  Mine would probably have worried, but told me to figure it out and certainly would not have send monetary aid.

      You, and the OP, are setting such good examples for your kids, and it melts me to read about how much you love them.

      However, I can't believe you guys could be my mothers (I'm 24).  You are WAY cooler than any of my parents' friends.

      What do you mean, uh-oh? Toddler & baby pictures

      by round peg inna square hole on Fri Nov 02, 2007 at 10:15:39 AM PDT

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      • I could be your mother... (0 / 0)

        my twins are 23!  Like you, I started having babies while I was still young, and I went back to school off and on, too.  All in all, not a bad way to do things for some of us.  The pay-off is that when you're in your 40's, you can be finished with a lot of the small-children stuff.  

        Thank you for thinking that I'm a cool mother...its never an easy job and you just keep wondering, over and over, if you're doing it right.  It helps when you realize that none of your children have grown up to be axe murderers and you can take that worry off your list!  

      • I guess I could (0 / 0)

        be your Mom too!  I didn't have my first until I was 32, but I tried for 5 years prior so I could certainly have a 24 year old.  As it is, I have two sons through my husband's first marriage...and they are ages 39 and 36...so I have kids (ha! grown men) older than you by far!

        Thanks for you kind comment.

        My knees still buckle a bit when I talk with my son since the days since last Saturday night.  Hearing his voice makes me take a huge deep breath and count my blessings.

  • I'm so sorry (0 / 0)

    What a scary experience.

    I agree with others here.  I think it is really short sighted not to give licenses to undocumented immigrants.  They are here and they are driving.  So we don't want them insured or licensed?  It makes no sense to me.

    I was really ticked off about what Chris Dodd said in the debate on Monday about it... "A license is a privilege."  Tell that to people who have crashes with those who are unlicensed and thus uninsured.

    • asdf (0 / 0)

      Chris Dodd said in the debate on Monday about it... "A license is a privilege."  Tell that to people who have crashes with those who are unlicensed and thus uninsured.

      In comments to the latest VMD diary at Daily Kos, it's mentioned that people in the major cities of LA and Detroit have difficulty getting to adequate food because of proximity. From a report by LaSalle Bank:

      The report noted that "more than a half million Detroit residents live in areas defined as food deserts — areas that require residents to travel twice as far or more to reach the closest mainstream grocer than to reach the closest fringe food location."

      Does that mean food is a privilege, too?

  • thank you... (0 / 0)

    I agree, although I keep thinking about this issue and it raises more questions than answers in my own mind.  I wonder if a program where licenses are given would inspire persons here illegally to obtain such a document...wouldn't they be afraid of being documented in this way because it might lead to deportation at some future point - perhaps not at time of licensing, but sometime down the road (no pun intended)?  

    The other driver leaving may in fact have economically benefited us, which I feel bad about because even though the other driver did something that seemed to have been the cause of the accident, technically my son would have been at fault, so that the other vehicle could have been fixed by our insurance.

    I can tell you that it took me almost two full days to feel normal in my own body after so much adrenaline and fear.  My mind seemed to have completely melted down so that the next day I literally felt empty-headed and like an emotional wreck.  So much of my worry was knowing he was waiting on the side of the road in the dark in a very dangerous area.  My mind went to places I would've hoped never to think about.  

    When I hear his voice now I still get weak in the knees knowing he is not hurt and is safely back at school.  

  • My goodness Karen!! (0 / 0)

    You should have contacted me, as I am in the L.A. area and would have had NO PROBLEM helping a fellow MT!! So sorry your family had to go through this!!

    Your theory as to why they left is a plausible one. What I have witnessed in areas that are primarily hispanic, are routine checkpoints, where if you look a certain way (HELLO RACIAL PROFILING!!) they'll pull you over and ask for drivers licence, registration and proof of insurance. Never mind that you didn't commit a moving violation. They set up this whole thing, where they have cones merging all lanes to one, a table with cops taking information, and a tow truck, for when they IMMEDIATELY impound your car if you speak Spanish and if you don't have what they're requesting.

    It's really upsetting when they target people that way.

    • Thank you Gloria! (0 / 0)

      I would have loved the help.  I had no idea how to help and envisioned myself in a helicopter swooping in on the 110 freeway to scoop my son up --- bringing a whole new definition to helicopter parenting! LOL.  I can't adequately describe the fear that took over my thinking while he sat in the dark waiting for the police/chp help that never came..thank goodness for the sweet hispanic tow truck driver who did help him, and promptly treated him to several donuts and a soda after they arrived at the body shop.  He also waited until my son was picked up by a cab which took him to the airport.  Bless that man.

  • Great argument for licenses (0 / 0)

    I just don't see the problem with offering them.  If driver licenses aren't eligible for use as proof of citizenship, then what's the problem?  Pretty simple to me.

    Our immigration system is so screwy.  We should be happy to let more immigrants into our country.  I'm sure they're smarter than the US citizens who voted for Bush, repeatedly!

  • I can't see illegal immigrants (0 / 0)

    lining up for licenses.  I just think that while it may be a good idea to try and keep track of people here they aren't going to trust that the government isn't going to use it as a means to round them up.  

    I lived here legally for years without an SSN - although I was able to transfer my Ontario license to a Texas one without an SSN but I would have been in a pickle if I had tried to get a license before getting an SSN even if here legally...I suppose.  

    I just don't think that people who are here illegally are going to volunteer to be tracked.  They're frightened enough as it is.  

    And I'm so sorry about your son and I hope he's feeling better.  

    I childproofed my house but they got back in somehow.

    by lonestar canuck on Sat Nov 03, 2007 at 01:49:21 PM PDT

    • thanks for caring. (0 / 0)

      i definitely have similar questions about persons here illegally --- why would they come forward?  it seems a bit idealistic...but maybe many would consider having a license and insurance a type of surety against certain situations like the one i described above so that at least there would be some protection regarding accidents, driving etc.  i have suspicions though about such a program being misused and if that's they way i think, i imagine it's 1000% more so for someone who is frightened of being deported.

  • I'm not sure the driver was illegal (0 / 0)

    I think it's possible, but I also know of people who didn't want to deal with the hassles related to car accidents.  My chiropractor has been hit several times and never bothered to follow up -- not enough time.  I backed into a car in a parking lot at the Forum in Inglewood and left a note under the windshield and never heard a word.  

    Some people know there's a lot of paperwork, phone calls, etc. involved with minor accidents and just choose to avoid all that.  

    • you may be right (0 / 0)

      but this was anything but minor.  It was on the freeway and my son was traveling at 65mph when the car in front came to a virtual standstill...our car was totalled....the other car was certainly damaged, but since they took off there was no way to know for sure how much.  Being hit from behind, they could still drive, but our car had to be loaded onto a flat-bed truck because it couldn't even be towed.  I saw pictures of it today that my husband took and it's horrifying.  The front end looks like it is doing a backbend into the dashboard.  The license plate is literally facing the windshield.  

      But, maybe, there are people who are too busy to deal with that....I hope I never have occasion to meet them.

  • can relate to the panic... (0 / 0)

    my heart raced just hearing about this. i would have been close to hysterical knowing my dd was sitting on the side of a freeway for 2 hours in the dark!

    i support allowing DLs for illegal immigrants.  

  • just checking in (0 / 0)

    (was away from Wednesday until Monday night).

    So sorry to hear of your son's mishap. Thank god he wasn't physically hurt, although I'll bet he's still plenty stressed from the incident. Thank goodness that you were able to transfer money so easily and he was able to get home!

    I agree with your interpretation, and also think licenses should be made available to undocumented workers. Yes, a license is a privilege, but if someone is willing to sit the test and can pass the test, much better for us all if they can get a license and get insurance. (I feel the same way about undocumented workers who take the time to pay taxes...)

    • The stress was high (0 / 0)

      for all of us.  DS was sore for quite a few days and I imagine feels reluctant to drive at least a little.  Of course, he has no car at the moment so that's not an issue.

      I agree with you about licenses --- I really don't see how it could hurt and I imagine it would definitely help.

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