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Surgery and birth

Sat Oct 20, 2007 at 08:37:02 PM PDT

So, second week and I’m already a day late.

::sigh::

Alright, the big "Mom" thing on my mind lately is a lack of support for parents.  Let me set the scenario for you:

DH has had 2 hernia surgeries in the 8 years I’ve known him...both abdominal.  Then, a few months ago, he began to feel a familiar bulge and pain in his lower abdomen.  Yup, another hernia.  So he had to schedule some time off from work and set up a surgery.  

So, he goes in on  Friday morning (6 am, you bastards!), and is out of surgery  around noon.  He’s a total wuss when it comes to anesthesia, so he’s out of it almost the whole day.  Today, he’s suffering (and being a little bit of a baby since at this point after my Cesarian section I was walking around in downtown Berkeley, carrying my daughter and trying to clean house for my obnoxious lin-laws) as well.  

The problem is that I’m 32 weeks pregnant, have dislocated my hip TWICE in the last 2 weeks and can barely move.  However, now I‘ve got him to tend to, my 2 year old to amuse, the house to unpack and laundry to do (made all the more a bigger job since I’m going through pants at a rate of 3 a day (peeing on them...damn pregnancy!)) so I don’t trip over crap in the middle of the night and die.  It’s ALL on me, and I’m on the verge of getting shunted to bedrest anyway because of my hip.

So, how does this work for everyone else?  Do other people just suffer like I’m getting to?  Are there people to hire?  Dh’s folks work (thank God) and my mom won’t come up 400 miles to help out (and he POS she’s married to wouldn’t have it, anyway).  I just don’t understand what other options there are than sleep deprivation and pain (if any).  We do have a roommate (my younger brother), but he’s got no experience with kids, can’t unpack for me, and is trying to find a job, so he’s busy himself.  He’s done all I could expect (and more, really...emptying baby-crap filled potties is WAY out of his range of responsibility)..but I know this is wearing on him.

Then, to add to all the surgery fun, there’s the issue of time off.  DH’s got only 6 hours of sick time left (DD’s surgery ate a LOT of it) but has 65 hours of vacation time stored up.  The company won’t let him use it since it’s "vacation" time and has to approved before use, so he’s supposed to go back to work on Monday morning, even though his discharge papers say 7-10 days before a return to work.  On the one hand, if the hospital had told him this before, he may have been able to get a "vacation" approved, but on the other hand, WTF?  He’s not adult enough to be allowed to use his earned time off to heal from surgery?

::sigh::  They’re going to love it when they find out that he’s taking 4 weeks FMLA leave off when DS is born, huh?

The other big issue in my life is my (and DH’s) worry over my C-section.  I am trying to have a VBAC this time, but can’t be induced  (not safe) and am not supposed to go past my due date.  However, my midwife won’t let me schedule my c-section (in case I don’t go on my own) because she’s afraid that doesn’t encourage positive thinking, and the OB in charge of the birth center has said she’ll let me go over to 41.5 weeks before she’ll do a section.  So, my choices are either to give birth, via scheduled section, on Dec 3rd, or wait and see what happens?  I’m half tempted to just schedule the thing so I can know when he’s coming and avoid the drama of "hoping" for labor, but on the other hand, I really want to birth my son (I feel like my daughter was just sort of ripped bodily from me).  Just thinking about doing the whole hospital, waiting, being ignored thing again makes me either angry or terrified (or both, on the fun days) and sends me into near anxiety attacks (which doesn’t go well with being the only ambulatory person in my house).

So, at my 34 week appointment, I’m going to try to talk the midwife into scheduling a section on 12/17 for me (2 days past due) so that I can breath easy knowing he’ll be thereby then, and then talk to my doula friends (still haven’t found one to hire, dammit, and the most promising one hasn’t gotten back to me) about "natural methods" for inducing labor, which I’m going to start trying, in earnest, at 36 or 37 weeks.

Thoughts, tips?

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  • Well, I never found a good way (0 / 0)

    to naturally induce labor.  And this was not for lack of effort on my part.  Fortunately, I almost always went before my due date.  One time I did go five days past, and considering this was meant I was pregnant several weeks longer than was normal for me, I was truly getting desperate.  The only way I ever figured out how to possibly get things started was to have my in-laws take a vacation.  My mother in law was one of those women who was just dying to take over after I had a baby...if we would have allowed it, she would have come to the hospital and managed my labor, too.  So, its not surprising that I managed to give birth when they were out of town or away from home almost every single time.  

    Those last weeks can be very trying.  No hernia for my husband, but about a week or so before my second delivery, he developed an abscessed wisdom tooth.  I'm an understanding soul...but I might not have been as charitable to him as I could have been at that time...fortunately, a round of antibiotics bought us some time.

  • Ugh (0 / 0)

    That is a lot to deal with.

    There are people you can hire, sure, but you have to find them. Your midwife/doula friends strike me as the kind of people who might know someone.

    For the peeing problem, I suggest maxi-pads. Then at least you won't have to wash so many pants.

    Perhaps your brother can be put in charge of tending to the husband? And you say you need to unpack so you won't fall over crap, but perhaps he can help move stuff out of the way? Having a wall lined with boxes isn't great, but it may be less dangerous. Anything you don't have to do, don't do.

    Any other moms with 2 year olds nearby? Again, maybe the doulas/midwife can hook you up? Another mom might be happy to do some playdates... and then at least you can sit quietly rather than having to do active amusement.

    Stupid corporate vacation rules. I never have understood them.

    Good luck, and take care.

  • Ugh! (0 / 0)

    Off the bat, I would let the "small" things go -- like the house. A little messiness is not going to kill you.

    But I am wondering: can you hire someone at all? Could your midwife refer you to a doula? I would also ask her if any of this is covered by your health insurance.

    I would also ask your dear brother to pitch in since he is living with you. Perhaps he can care for his brother-in-law in lieu of video games? at least for a little while. :)

    I feel for you. My husband is going in for a cat scan tomorrow and I am dreading if it is anything serious that will require surgery. I have already enlisted my childhood best friend to come out from Colorado in the event that it is. It is difficult enough to care for small children, and then one's spouse too? You're right. Only in this country do we expect women to do it all.

    • Brother has been great (0 / 0)

      He's been helping make dinner and doing all he can with DD, but he's been driving around the Bay for hours a day trying to find a job so he can pay rent.

      Ting is, while I'd love to "make" him help, he is here as just a roommate, and is doing way more than he "has" to anyway.  I just don't want to alienate the kid, and babysitting me or Dh isn't really in his renter's description.  He agreed to watch DD 3 hours a week for me (doctor's appointments, etc) before mving in, and he's had her 3 hours a DAY while we've been finishing the move, and then this whole hernia thing.  But most of the time she just wants me!

      As to the small stuff: we can't put anything away until we've cleared the shelves and stuff, and DD litters the floor with toys, potties and junk, so until I have the laundry out of her toybox,I'm at risk for death everytime I go to the bathroom.

      And our (crappy) insurance won't pay for any care, even though I'm temporarily legally disabled (placard and all)...and we've got no spare cash to hire someone to babysit me out of pocket, either.  I just wish DH's little bro didn't have a job, or tat my mom was willing to come help cook and clean.

      What do you mean, uh-oh? Toddler & baby pictures

      by round peg inna square hole on Sun Oct 21, 2007 at 09:45:05 AM PDT

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  • Ok, a word of caution here (0 / 0)

    Sorry to say this like a worried Mom....

    but i moved when i was 32 weeks pregnant.  I moved something too heavy and did not know that I tore the placenta loose.  DD came a week later (at 35 weeks) by emergency c-section.

    So please, please take care of yourself, your hip dislocation is a blessing in disguise, a reason for you to slow down.

    Can you take a breather, rest with feet up and do some planning for your  next plan of attack?  My 2 yo loved to put paper back in the box when i unpacked my kitchen.

  • hmmm (0 / 0)

    it sounds like you're really jammed up. i agree with others, if you can minimize the unpacking to just what absolutely has to be done that would be good. is there anyway you can trade rent for your bro's help right now? since he doesn't have a job at the moment, maybe you could kind of hire him to help you.

    another thought is, can DH's mother or father take any time off work to help you guys? even for a few days? they must have some sick days stored up or some vacation time that isn't being held hostage like your husband's. WTF???

    as for the VBAC and scheduling the c-section, i think there is a lot of pressure on women to resist the c-section. i think if it brings you peace of mind, get it on the calendar. frankly, i think having it scheduled isn't going to make a bit of difference as to whether or not you have a successful VBAC.

    i tried for a VBAC last december and went two weeks late. i tried everything to get that labor going. nothing worked until they broke my water and then whoa, man did labor kick in. maybe that's one thing you could talk about with your midwife. the thing is, if they break your water and it doesn't get things going, then you'd have a c-section. but if you're okay with that, then maybe it's worth a try.

    • Thanks (0 / 0)

      I'm trying on the not unpacking.  Like I said, though, it's just a whole lot of "item a is in item b's place and item c can' get put away because of item b stuff."  Brother really i trying, but what can he do, really, other than cook? No license means no taking the kid anywhere (he's only got a motorcycle license).  So, he plays with her and ries to distract her, but he doesn't know where things go.  Eh...He's already been worth the trouble I've taken to get him up here.

      As for my or Dh's folks...my mom SHOULD be up here helping (no job, nothing else to do) but her husand would hate it, so she isn't.  MIL and FIL COuldn't give less of a flying hell about my comfort, and MIL would come in and bitch about my dirty house...3 weeks after move in with all of this going on.  FIL would just come and yell, so I'm sort of glad they aren't here...still...I wish I could send Rory to them.

      Will mention the breaking of water thing to the midwife on 11/3

      What do you mean, uh-oh? Toddler & baby pictures

      by round peg inna square hole on Sun Oct 21, 2007 at 09:08:10 PM PDT

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      • Well, you could save the unpacking (0 / 0)

        until you're ready to go into labor.  We moved into our house when I was only six weeks pregnant.  Needless to say, there were a lot of unpacked boxes down in the basement.  A few weeks before I was due, I became convinced that I had to get that stuff unpacked.  So strong was my conviction that I really believed that I would not let myself go into labor until it was done.  Well...that couldn't happen, because I was certainly ready to go...so, the weekend before I did go into labor, I spent about 3 days unpacking this stuff.  To tell the truth, I don't even remember what was in those boxes, all I recall is throwing out a refrigerator size box of garbage.  Who knows?  If I hadn't unpacked, maybe it would have held up my labor...

      • sorry to hear (0 / 0)

        sounds like your mom is dropping the ball. it's hard to understand not doing something because your husband doesn't want you to. good luck and take it easy on that hip of yours. dislocation sounds painful.

  • I know it's hard to do, (0 / 0)

    but I agree with the advice to take it easy on this thread. You don't want to cause yourself more problems by overdoing it.  The unpacking will be there when you are ready.  

    And, I totally get your DH's issue with general anesthesia.  I'm crap with that too.  I've only had it a couple of times in my life, and HATED it each time.  I don't know if I was overdosed each time... but it took me hours to come out of it and I was a mess afterward.  Some people have a harder time with it than others.  

    I hope you find some help whether it's family or someone your midwife can recommend. And I hope things go smoothly with your VBAC.  Are you in touch with your local ICAN group?  They might be able to give you support and maybe some tips for naturally starting labor.  My midwife recommended Evening Primrose Oil...500mg, one in the morning orally and one before bed vaginally.  I don't know if it helped or not, but #1 was 2 days early and #2 was three days late.  Best of luck to you.

  • oh peg! (0 / 0)

    hang in there!
    i hired a gal to help out around the house after my son was born, and i came down with a nasty uterine infection.  i also called my girlfriends, and the godparents of my children.  oh, and my neighbors.  

    my parents are far away, and my inlaws are useless too.  i really depend on the godparents of my kids, my neighbors, and my girlfriends.  

    i've met a few other moms who are also alone in my city without other family.  we trade tips on babysitters.  

    of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most.

    by jlms qkw on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 10:18:45 PM PDT

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