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All hail the Boobie Brigade!

Thu Nov 16, 2006 at 01:09:02 PM PDT

I just love stories like this.

A group of 30 or so moms, dads and their kids gathered at the Delta Airlines check-in counter in Burlington, Vermont today and staged a nurse-in to protest Freedom Airlines.

It seems a sadly misguided flight attendant kicked nursing mother Emily Gillette and her family off an Oct. 13 flight because she refused to cover up while nursing:

The flight was operated by Freedom Airlines, which was operating a commuter flight for Delta Air Lines. Gillette said that at about 10 p.m., after a three-hour delay, she began to discretely nurse her 22-month-old daughter as they prepared for take off.

That's when Gillette says a flight attendant approached her, directing her to cover up with a blanket. When Gillette declined, the attendant allegedly told her that she was offended, and the Gillettes were kicked off the plane. Gillette has filed a charge against the two airlines with the Vermont Human Rights Commission because breast-feeding is protected under Vermont's Public Accommodations Law.


I've read contradictory reports, some of which insinuated that Gillette got loud and defensive, thus provoking her ejection from the plane. I sympathize; if I were in her shoes, I would have become loud and defensive at the very least.

Even though breastfeeding prudes annoy me to no end, I also try to sympathize with them, because I once was a member of their ranks. Watching a woman nurse made me feel awkward and uncomfortable and I could never, ever imagine myself breastfeeding a child. The solution, though, was simple: I CHOSE TO LOOK AWAY.

Before my daughter was born, I bought myself the Cadillac of breast pumps and intended to bottle feed once my milk came in. Don't ask me why I wasn't bothered by the notion of being hooked up to a machine and milked several times a day...but I digress.

Long story short: I ended up happily nursing Maya for 14 months and found it to be a godsend for keeping her quiet and happy while flying. During our last trip, I rued the loss of my boobies as a pacifier.

But one thing is certain: even at 14 months, my daughter would NOT have tolerated having her head covered with a blanket while she nursed. It's highly doubtful that Emily Gillette's 22-month-old would have complied with the flight attendant's "request."

I don't know if it's luck, the fact I live in California or a mixture of both, but I was never once harrassed in any way for nursing in public. I like to think I would react as vocally and gracefully as Emily Gillette, but I guess you never know until you find yourself in such an unpleasant situation.

As nurse-in participant Caroline Beer said:

"I was horrified that a mother could be humiliated like that."

Me too, Caroline. Bless you for taking action on behalf of so many moms. Whenever possible, breastfeeding should be the norm, NOT the exception. I have faith that we'll get there someday.

So MotherTalkers...were you ever harrassed for nursing in public? How did you deal with it? Share your experiences, good and bad, and take the (VERY tongue-in-cheek) poll...

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  • Heh (0 / 0)

    The ever popular CAN SUCK IT!

    I do hope our friend who came over last night to berate you comes over again to read all the responses.

    I NIP'd many, many times, including at a baseball game with thousands of attendees, and I don't think I ever had someone complain.

    People need to get over the fact that infants and toddlers need to eat.

    • This is a hot button for me too (0 / 0)

      This year several states, including mine, passed legislation that specifically protects nursing mothers while NIP.  I and 100s of other moms (and dads) across the state worked hard to get this legislation passed.  We collected 10-15 stories of people in our state who were harassed while NIP and there were lots more that we heard about but couldn't find the original source.  Some of the stories were quite funny while others had the potential to intimidate new, young moms (let's face it, we MTs are of the bold variety).  In our state formula feeding is by far the norm.  I have to admit that the more people took issue with my breastfeeding, the more determined I was to do it until he's 10.  While I think all women should be able to make their own informed decision on how to feed their babies, when breastfeeding is taboo in a culture, it's difficult for moms to get informed enough to choose.  Only through exposure will breasts be as commonly thought of as bottles when people think of baby food.  So, to those ladies who are still nursing---- POP OUT THOSE BOOBIES ANYWHERE YOU CAN!

      BTW, I can't wait to hear the clever phrases the phantom emailer comes up with for this issue!

      "We've GOT to make noises in greater amounts! So, open your mouth, lad! For every voice counts!"

      by progressiveinky on Thu Nov 16, 2006 at 02:14:49 PM PDT

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  • i've been reading all (0 / 0)

    the comments over at dailykos about this RIDICULOUS situation.  how ironic that the airline's name is FREEDOM.  jeezus.

    What is the brouhaha about breastfeeding?  OMG.  As you point out, all one needs to do is NOT LOOK.  As for me, I think breastfeeding is beautiful.  I formed an opinion only after I became a mom and had children -- I didn't even think of it before that time in my life and couldn't have cared less about moms choosing to breastfeed in public.  It seems the MOST natural thing in the world.

    WHY DO PEOPLE CARE?  In this country we seem so upside down about the human body and its natural functions.

    This seems to be such an issue of CONTROLLING others at the whim of whomever.

    One of the commenters at kos was making fun of the fact that maybe this was somehow related to a terrorist booby.... i thought the only terrorist booby we have is in the white house --

    quick cover him up!

    • Same here (0 / 0)

      My mom called me up and said, "...you have to go over to Kos--- there's a diary about the breastfeeding mom who was thrown off a flight".  95% of the comments were pro-breastfeeding and positive.  

      I think the thing that gets me is, the only person offended was the stewardess.  No one else could see what was going on.  I've breastfed both my kids on Delta flights and no one ever said a word.  

      I've been lucky that no one has ever approached me and been negative.  All I ever got were positive comments.  But, women have been harrassed and it just keeps happening.  What if she's a first time mom and she's already shy about nursing in public?  An incident like this could sabotage her confidence and keep her from doing it again.  

      The more it's seen, the more it'll be the norm... and that's as it should be!!!!

      "We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dream..."

      by 1plain1peanut on Thu Nov 16, 2006 at 02:42:05 PM PDT

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      • honestly it is (0 / 0)

        inconceivable to me how this can even be an issue except to give FULL support to mothers who breastfeed.  this stuff drives me crazy.

        years ago when i was breastfeeding my daughter i was in a similar situation in that the plane was delayed over and over AND we were all strapped into our seats and were stuck on the plane.  i kept trying to figure out when to start nursing and ended up nursing her too much so that when we actually did take off she started to nurse and then proceeded to throw up all of the breastmilk on me and into the diaper bag as i tried to contain her and the situation.  i had my four year old on the flight as well.  my dh was not on the flight.  you can imagine the scene....BUT so much of what i was trying to do was be sure my baby wasn't a nuisance to anyone else as far as her crying on take off to clear her ears....i mean holy sheep --- moms are doing the BEST they can and generally it seems to me tend to try and not have their kids cause a disruption or disturbance to others.

        the end result of that mortifying scene was she cried for almost the whole flight.  those were the days when you could walk up to the front and stand in the flight attendant area to minimize the seatmate's annoyance which i did.  i was grateful for that space as well.

        sure there are parents that don't give a hoot, but then there are plenty of child-free who could use a lesson in manners and consideration too...

        • flying with kids is physically exhausting (0 / 0)

          Yeah, there is no spacing out time or relaxing for parents on flights. I find myself totally singing and dancing and juggling (figuratively speaking) AND nursing, just to keep kids entertained and not bothering people.

          So far, I've been lucky. My children travel well, but I'm definitely tired out by the end of a coast to coast trip to see my family. In fact, we haven't attempted it with two kids yet. Just half way across the country with the new little one was plenty this past Summer.

          I like the idea from commenter (above?below?) that nursing is a gift that benefits everyone, even the people in the far off rows of the plane.

          • so true (0 / 0)

            I was physically spent when we reached our destination the last time we traveled. I felt like a rodeo clown trying desperately to distract and entertain my daughter.
          • my kids generally travelled well also (0 / 0)

            but when they were little it was exhausting no matter what or how they were. i tended to want to be ready for any scenario... couple that with the kind of delays that can happen making travelling a nightmare.

            it's one of many reasons i am thankful my kids  are older now and self-contained and -amused.

            now there are other challenges to face.  sigh.

  • I never thought (0 / 0)

    I'd end up so passionate about  breastfeeding!

    My first child went into childcare at 8 weeks, and we kept on nursing a couple of times a day for about 6-8 months, but gradually she chose to do other things, and liked the bottle.

    My second....well, I was an at-home mom first of all, so I could nurse on demand.  He was (is) a super cuddler, and REFUSED a bottle (except sometimes his big sister could coax him to drink a little).  Nursing just seemed easier, more convenient, etc.

    I nursed in all sorts of places, and kept a mental list of "places S and I nursed".  To this day, I can't go to the Metroplitan Museum's Scupture Court without smiling!

    • DITTO! (0 / 0)

      Never, EVER saw myself as a potential "lactivist," if you will...but having gone through so much to establish a successful nursing relationship with my daughter, I'm now SO passionate about every woman's right to do it anywhere and everywhere. And this is coming from someone who didn't think she would nurse. You just never know...
  • you know, it's funny (0 / 0)

    I never attracted a moment's flak for NIP the entire time Jess nursed. I was surprised about that, since culturally the English are more straighlaced about Public Appearances than us Yanks. I was kinda hoping for it a couple of times at the depths of my sleep deprivation; I woulda loved a fight over my GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO NURSE...

    But seriously, I nursed in public countless times, at Starbucks, in parks, on busses, at the Savoy when Jess was 5 months and I got invited to a poshy high tea. The tea at the Savoy was actually funny, because I was invited by a  contact and she brought a colleague. The professional contact had a big story about how disgusted she was to have to sit next to a BF woman on a recent flight in business class. I was just nodding along, but the colleague turned to me and we then proceeded to have about a 10-minute conversation about breastfeeding, as she had a 10-month old son and was bf him and had bf her two older children as well. We went over the fine points of expressing (manual v electric pump), lactating on the road (pump and dump, or take a cooler?), the pros and cons of extended bf, etc., etc. All very, very seeeriously. The first woman just didn't know what to say and ended up necking a few extra cups of tea! I guess you could say it was a verbal bf protest!

    I was always comfortable with breast feeding, as my mom bf me and my younger sister (not that I'd remember my experience, of course!). As a result, I've always had a very warm feeling seeing women bf their children.

  • They can literally suck it (0 / 0)

    Only in America would this happen.  Most other countries no one would fuss.  This is the country that is ashamed to breastfeed babies, but shows everything on TV.  Pathetic.  

    I guess we do not know the entire story, perhaps the flight attendant asked nicely the mom escalated and it all turned ugly, who knows, but the point is that the attendant should not have even asked.  I guess the only possible defense I can muster for the flight attendant is that the kid was almost 2 and technically did not need to nurse, since milk was not its only form of sustenance.  But what, she should mind her own business.

    My only exposure to NIP which could be misconstrued as "offensive" was on the bus.  Kid of about 3 or 4 would hike up mom's shirt and latch on.  The rest of us passengers just looked away.  I am very much pro breastfeeding, but I think past 2 or so, it is more of a binky/blankie type thing for the child vs. nourishment.

    Lawn is a sterile monoculture - de-grass! read/comment on my blog http://hardingfele.livejournal.com

    by freia on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 06:25:34 AM PDT

    • Again, you never walked in those shoes (0 / 0)

      First, I never thought I'd nurse.  Once I tried it and worked hard at it I wasn't sure how long I'd do it.  He wouldn't take the bottle, was very cuddly and at times fearful.  He just came out that way. Scared of everything, very attached to the booby.  Early on people would tell me "don't nurse past 12 months, at that point it's all about the mother getting her own needs met."  At 12 months it was clear that my fearful son would have a very hard time weaning.  So then I decided to not push it until 2 and hoped he'd wean himself.  He didn't wean and at 2 yrs, 3 months I still nurse him once a day b/c he still really needs emotional support.  If I were fulfilling my own selfish need I would have weaned him 1 1/2 years ago.  I cannot judge others for choosing child-led weaning.  Every child is different and has different needs.

      "We've GOT to make noises in greater amounts! So, open your mouth, lad! For every voice counts!"

      by progressiveinky on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 06:43:42 AM PDT

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      • That is true (0 / 0)

        But at some point, and it depends on the child and the parent comes a time at some time where the binky and boob and blankies go and kids move to another stage in their lives.  I mean age 2 is definitely not a cutoff or anything like that, but if a 3 or 4 yo is nursing, people may give the pair an odd look.  If you can deal with it, more power to you.  In my opinion, a child that old (3 or 4) has to learn how to handle fear or insecurity without latching on, but then I am not the type to kiss boo boo's for Kari. I say, get up, put medicine on it and move on with your day.

        Lawn is a sterile monoculture - de-grass! read/comment on my blog http://hardingfele.livejournal.com

        by freia on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 07:04:26 AM PDT

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        • We all have opinions (0 / 0)

          I agree that all kids need to eventually learn how to deal with negative emotion and situations, but some kids are ready earlier than others.  And I often wonder when having these debates-- don't we just train kids to move on to the next security device?  Don't adults use food, alcohol, material things, etc. for comfort?  I know that you just follow your child's need, as do I.  Luckily, most of the time our children get their personalities from the parents, so the parents seem to know just what they need.  (Someone who has adopted might correct me on whether the intuition is just as strong without the genes?)  I admit that I tend to be on the AP side of child rearing, but I still say that if a woman/child wants to nurse until the child is 10 it's not my business anymore than it was the flight attendant's business that this woman was nursing on the airplane.  Honestly, what has been more difficult for me is idea that it's also not my business if someone chooses to formula feed, no matter how disgusting I find that practice.

          "We've GOT to make noises in greater amounts! So, open your mouth, lad! For every voice counts!"

          by progressiveinky on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 07:41:45 AM PDT

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          • Yeah I know (0 / 0)

            I mean what is smoking or drinking, drugs or sex, but an adult binkie :-) I am not an attachment parent person at all, I am more affectionate to my cat family than to my human family and I tend to shrug off trivial issues and say suck it up and deal with it.  However, I have a child who could probably benefit from more the AP, but I cannot force my personality to be that way. But then that is a topic for another debate!

            Lawn is a sterile monoculture - de-grass! read/comment on my blog http://hardingfele.livejournal.com

            by freia on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 07:48:16 AM PDT

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          • Side note (0 / 0)

            Just a side note, there are some of us on here who formula feed for whatever reason (including myself), and to use language like 'disgusting' in reference to that is insulting and demeaning to us.

            It feels just like how you feel when some people find NIP offensive.

            • Oh, I was poking at myself there (0 / 0)

              Wasn't meaning to offend.  I was just illustrating how closed minded I can also be and trying to compare that to what people do with NIP.  Although I wasn't clear in my communication, it seems to have gotten that point across.  I forget that sarcasm sometimes doesn't translate well in type.

              "We've GOT to make noises in greater amounts! So, open your mouth, lad! For every voice counts!"

              by progressiveinky on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 08:53:23 AM PDT

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        • In our house, (0 / 0)

          at 3 or 4 they had to learn to wait until we weren't in public.  Learning to wait was something a 3 or 4 year old could handle.  3 was my cut off for nursing in public... but that's just me.  I wouldn't care about anyone else doing it.  At this point in their lives, most kids aren't nursing that many times during the day anyway.  And, my kids were night weaned by this time.  Every mother is different and every child is different.  It's difficult to compare.  This is just how we handled it.  

          "We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dream..."

          by 1plain1peanut on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 08:56:23 AM PDT

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        • My guess is (0 / 0)

          That a lot of 2-3 year olds are still nursing, but quietly, once a day, at home. A lot of don't ask, don't tell.
          • I worked with a doula over my breastfeeding (0 / 0)

            nightmare, and she said that a lot of her clients actually do lie and say they are breastfeeding even if they are not so that they won't be judged!! This is the Bay Area and not breastfeeding does in fact reveal you to be a poor uninformed loser - just joking of course - that is the feeling around here.

            So I totally believe people do the don't ask don't tell approach if they bf their toddlers.

            So sad that there is so much pressure.

            • Really? (0 / 0)

              People lie about it?  How do they do that?  Because that would mean you couldn't give the baby a bottle in public either?  Yikes!

              That's interesting about the Bay Area, kind of shows that even progressive areas can be oppressive in their own way.

              • Totally! (0 / 0)

                we can coin a new term "oppressive progressive" LOL. Is there pressure to bf in NJ?

                I think people could fake it by preparing bottles before they left the house. I've done that a bunch of times (not to fake it but to save time later). I've been out with plenty of moms who whip out a full bottle from the diaper bag.

                I was actually recently asked if my bottle had formula or breastmilk!! I had to be polite because we were at a gathering of my husband's colleagues. I really wanted to just ignore her, but found myself listening to her self-righteous bit about how long she bf and faking that I cared LOL.

                The other way people "fake" it around here is to say they breastfed but they did for maybe two weeks, four weeks, that kind of thing. My bias used to be that if you "breastfed" it was for a bunch of months. Of course, now I realize that the logistics of pumping at work totally suck (I pumped full time for 8 weeks, oh my lord it was awful).

                But it's poignant because no one wants to be left out. I can totally relate to faking, although I never did, because on top of the sadness of not being able to do that for my baby, I felt real anxiety that I would be judged and ostracized as a lame, uninformed, nonnurtuing mother. I have definitely heard judgements about this, and been judged. And many people asked me why I wasn't bf. It was hard to come up with some way to get out of telling people personal information. Then they would get into did I work with a lactation specialist, etc. (Yes, three, including a private one at $135 an hour! ... but then again, I didn't want to justify myself ....).

                It was doubly frustrating to me because as a trained therapist, I know that attachment is a very long process that is very heavily weighted toward how the mother responds and relates to the baby, and the emotional health of the mother. And I still felt terrorized by the boobie brigade.

                More on this when we talk about Judith Warner's book!! Sorry to turn this into such a long posting.

                Meanwhile, blech to all that.

                Rachel D

                • Attitude (0 / 0)

                  Where I live, I would describe the atmosphere as moderate.  Most people think breastfeeding is a good thing, but there is certainly no way in hell anyone would come up to you and ask what is in the bottle.

                  I've always hung with a mix of mommy friends and we all do a mix of things on infant feeding and the issue honestly never comes up, one might be over there nursing, another one prepping a bottle, other than maybe random chats about what works, tips regarding both formula and breastfeeding.  I realize I am lucky that way.

                  I personally am an unapologetic formula feeder.  I don't explain myself and my experience on this issue to anyone because I simply don't feel the need to and I often don't feel 'safe' doing so, because the people who do the asking on this topic can sometimes be judgemental about it, although I recognize some of it could be simple curiosity.  I have stopped a few people in their tracks who ask, what I consider to be intrusive questions, usually relatives.  Not in an aggressive way, just assertive.  It's just no one's business!

                  • Yes, peeps (0 / 0)

                    who ask the questions are usually the same ones who don't take the hint to move on, and have some judgement about it. They are hard to shake that's for sure.

                    Thanks for your perspective, NJ Mom!

                    • P.S. (0 / 0)

                      P.S. I meant to say sorry that things didn't work out for on the breastfeeding front the way you planned.  It's when we're most vulnerable as mothers, when we are new mothers, we are thrown this test and then subject to questions and possibly judgements by the world around us.  It's no wonder you felt sadness and anxiety.  Who wouldn't.      
                • Brigade from Hell (0 / 0)

                  I think it sucks when people have to judge others like that when it comes to bottle feeding.  I do know many women who give us breastfeeding advocates a bad name.  I know everyone's entitled to an opinion, but jaysus... enough is enough!  

                  When someone gives a snarky look to a mom who's bottle feeding, do they realize that maybe she did try to breastfeed and it didn't work out?  Like you, this mom may have feelings of guilt and loss over breastfeeding.  People need to be more sensitive about this.  

                  There are other ways to be attached to your baby.  Dr. Sears, the attachment parenting doctor, has a whole chapter in his book "The Baby Book" entitled "Bottle Feeding with Love".  

                  "We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dream..."

                  by 1plain1peanut on Sat Nov 18, 2006 at 09:27:46 AM PDT

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                  • I agree (0 / 0)

                    I agree.  Everyone is entitled to an opinion on everything (I myself have bazillions of opinions!), it's how you act on them.  

                    Breastfeeding advocates are doing important work.  I applaud any work on the large scale which deals with policy, etc. and also on the ground, such as advocates who work with individual women.

                    However, attacking (no matter how covert or overt) an individual woman who formula feeds gives some advocates a bad name.  It's really a shame and doesn't do the cause any good, as you mentioned.

                    I personally don't think the 'reason' that someone doesn't breastfeed matters.  In other words, how much effort someone put into trying, or not trying, is irrelevant in my book.  What do you we do, give points?  You tried for this long, you gave up at day 2, you were drowning in PPD so you get a pass.  Nonsense.

                    The bottom line is it's a personal decision where a whole bunch of factors collide and every individual woman deserves to be treated with respect (or just silence will do) with regards to it, as you mentioned.  Just like a myriad of other parenting decisions we make.

                    Of course, there are other ways to be attached to a child.  I absolutely couldn't be more attached to my kiddies and my feeding them as infant still plays a large role in that, even though it is with a bottle.

                    • amen (0 / 0)

                      I loved breastfeeding, but it was a huge challenge for me to get right, and I supplemented with a bottle of formula. I wouldn't have judged or snarked at a woman for choosing formula before this happened, and I sure as hell wouldn't now! We can't know from a snapshot how, why, when, where or anything about a woman and her decisions, so why not try support?
      • Such BS (0 / 0)

        "don't nurse past 12 months, at that point it's all about the mother getting her own needs met."
        What a joke.  They think infants are glad to be done at 12 months?!  I'm sure some are, but there are plenty who are thrilled to still be nursing well past that age.
        • would have loved it (0 / 0)

          had DD wanted to nurse longer than 11.5 months! She weaned herself - in one day, at one fell swoop! Gave her a normal wake-up feed, but at the next one, she looked at me like I was trying to do something wholly unexpected, and never took the breast again, even though I persisted in offering for about two weeks. I still sorta miss the experience (DH tells me that it means I'm getting clucky again and we should get started on #2!)
    • I agree that only in America (0 / 0)

      we would be prudish enough to be having this discussion. Remeber this controversy??  MOTHERS were writing in, offended. My favorite quote was:

      One mother who didn't like the cover explains she was concerned about her 13-year-old son seeing it.

      "I shredded it," said Gayle Ash, of Belton, Texas, in a telephone interview. "A breast is a breast -- it's a sexual thing. He didn't need to see that."

      Yeah... nice.

      As for the B/F past 1 year, I've read that in historic times, B/F past 1 year was the norm, and it kept population rates down (b/f can decrease fertility until you wean) and regulated the family to children every three years or so. The benefits that babies get from b/m don't stop at a year- it's not a magic switch that turns off all the immunities and good stuff, and cow's milk doesn't replace those things.

      BUT... about the lifting mom's shirt thing. My dd is 7 months old, and I tell her "no" firmly when she starts lifting and pulling at my clothes. I understand she's hungry, or maybe wants comfort, but I think the same women who allow their children to hike up their shirts wouldn't DREAM of letting their children yank a cookie off the counter or take a snack from someone else's plate without asking. So that part I don't get.

      I also don't know if anyone has any suggestions about dealing with the "break off and look around" phase. Man, I try so hard to understand that she's just so curious and all that, but despite my comfort with nursing wherever, whenever needed, I still am not fond of the pull/break/look around while mommy's boob gets cold.

  • I was never harrassed in public, just in private.. (0 / 0)

    I nursed my second child for 13 months, and we were in public alot.  We nursed in the stands at Oriole's games; we nursed in our public park, in restaurant booths, at our neighborhood pool, and, one of my favorites, at the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum, against the wall, but right in the middle of the main concourse.  I did not nurse on a plane, but did sit down in an empty gate area, after a one hour flight, to nurse before an hour drive.  

    At the end of that drive, we reached my aunt's house for a family occassion -- maybe 30 people, with 10 kids under the age of 12, most of whom had been breastfed.  My mother, however, was appalled at the thought (she thought I should have weaned him at six weeks, at this time he was 5 months old and I had 8 more months of harrassment from my mother to go!)  Anyway, my mother informed me that I should not nurse my baby in front of people, that my aunt would be offended.  So I took him up to the master bedroom, and sat in my aunts rocker for 20 minutes.  No problem.  Except my aunt was more offended that we had disappeard.  The next time he nursed, we sat in the living room, with people filtering by, and noone (except my mother who turned her back and scowled) noticed.  

    • My poor MiL (0 / 0)

      had such a time with my DH's grandmother (her MiL). The woman used to MOO whenever MiL would nurse, and would call her "Bessy the Cow." (Oh, and would tell her, Breasts are for your husband, not your child. Riiiiight....). When her daughter (my SiL) nursed her children (the 2nd until she was past 2 years old) Grandma kept quiet, so I think that SiL had a good time letting Grandma see her in action, as a sort of support of her mom. I will be honest, I felt the same satisfaction nursing in front of DH's Grandma, who was also more reserved with me, knowing that MiL was getting a little "revenge" for it all. Bessy the Cow. Horrid.
  • I was never harrassed (0 / 0)

    and I did a lot of nursing in public. It probably helped that the year before my daughter was born there was a big brouhaha in the local Barnes & Noble, where a young employee attempted to banish a woman from the children's section to the bathroom. Nurse in, plenty of embarrassment and mea culpas for B&N... and by the time my daughter was born, there were at least 4 signs around the children's area inviting me to breastfeed. :-) :-)

    Recently we had an incident near here, again with a teenage male, where he was the lifeguard at the public pool and asked a mother to leave the pool area. He got pretty thoroughly slammed too. But when you consider what a granola/free spirit area this is (north coast California), it's kind of surprising that things like that would still happen here.

  • Nationwide Nurse-In Planned (0 / 0)

    Some of the moms at MotheringDotCommune have put together a nationwide nurse-in at Delta counters.  

    Also, Mothering Magazine recently did an interview with Emily Gilette.

    "We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dream..."

    by 1plain1peanut on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 10:01:44 AM PDT

  • NIP 3 babies (0 / 0)

    and never had a problem.  But I found that after 3 or 4 months I preferred to find a quiet place to nurse.  Unfortunately the bathroom (besides being stinky) is never quiet!  I often thought back to the days when my Mother would take me to the fancy department stores in town and we would walk through the Ladies Lounge on our way the bathroom.  Big soft chairs, soft music, dim lights... like a ladies only club.  I'm so sad they disappeared.    
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    And I breastfed in just about every location one could imagine.  Most people never even realized what I was doing....quite frankly, people are usually so self-absorded that one could do almost anything in public without drawing attention.  

    I've breastfed babies on planes...again, no problem.  In fact, most literature suggests doing so as it eases the pressure in the ears.  

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    I have one really beautiful story on this.  At our local coffee shop I was breastfeeding my then 4 month-old son when a crochety old man said, very loudly,"she should take that baby in the bathroom for that, nobody wants to see that stuff."  The day manager, a young, gay man came over and looked the old codger straight in the eye and said, "Do you eat your lunch in the toilet?....Neither does he, get over it."  I still go there every day, I loved that answer, and I appreciated the unexpected show of support.  It suprises me how many people think that it is appropriate to force a child to nurse in a public restroom, people who wouldn't carry thier coffee into the stall of a public convenience, think kids should nurse in there.  I've also had trouble when I needed to pump breastmilk, with being directed to the restroom.  Breatmilk is food, not poop.

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