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  • Pls Slow Down and Consider the Message (0 / 0)

    I am neither embracing nor disavowing the Capitalist rubric for personal worth. I am simply stating it.

    There are two worlds: The World as it Should Be and The World as It Is.

    Regarding your comment about economic liability: Yes - dependence on two incomes has risk; however, dependence upon one is even more risky. It's simple mathematics.

    Regarding the second portion of your comment: My statement about a partner or spouse who embraces his or her fair share of familial obligations has nada to do with partriarchy or female "freedom". It's about shared responsibilities. (If you'd like to talk patriarchy and feminism perhaps we should start another diary.)

    Furthermore - since women continually talk about not being able to find "Work-Life Balance" and often reveal what they have to "give up" ...clearly-the "all different kinds of arrangements" that you speak of ain't working out.

    by Uhura on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 11:48:48 AM PDT

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    • balance (0 / 0)

        2.  Work-Life Balance:

      is quite possible with a partner or spouse who embraces his or her fair share of familial obligations. Why this escapes so many people of both genders is beyond my comprehension.

      I was responding to this part of your comment.
       
      You are correct, The World As It Should Be, isn't here yet.  Hence, all the different kinds of arrangements that families come up with that work for them in The World As It Is.  You seem to be claiming that work-life balance is possible as long as you have a spouse that "embraces his or her fair share of familial obligations."  That's it's not the world, but a crummy partner making women "give up."

      BTW, all of this assumes that I think every woman wants to work or make tenure or be CEO, and I don't think that is true.

      by NJmom on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 12:12:45 PM PDT

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      • Circular Reasoning and Other Forms of Non Logic.. (0 / 0)

        Your inferences about what I am saying are simply that-inferences.

        Focus on my actual claims rather than what I seem to be claiming.

        possible does not =  as long as

        and

        Work-Life Balance:

        is quite possible with a partner or spouse who embraces his or her fair share of familial obligations.

        does not =

        it's not the world, but a crummy partner making women "give up."

        It appears that you may be reading a personal message in my comments which are not really there.

        The nature of our economy puts people who rely on wages in a very precarious position because employers generally do not respect workers as persons.

        The entire system is dysfunctional. We all know it.

        The current state of things dictates that women - who are often the most financially vulnerable (adult) members of society - carefully consider decsisions which could impact financial well-being.

        by Uhura on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 12:24:26 PM PDT

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        • shouldn't we all (0 / 0)

          "carefully consider {decisions} which could impact financial well-being?"

          I am pretty sure that whatever the current state of things each of us - male or female - should carefully consider all our decisions.

          Anne W

          by Anne W on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 11:03:30 AM PDT

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