Friday Open Thread

Did you hear the latest? According to this Salon article, Arizona lawmakers want President Obama to prove, yet again, his citizenship. Yes, you heard that right. They are pushing a bill that would require the President to show his birth certificate to get on the state’s 2010 ballot. Are they freakin’ serious?

Speaking of backwards states, if you’re gay and thinking about getting a divorce – DON’T MOVE TO TEXAS! According to this article, Texas is refusing to grant divorces to gay residents who were married in states where same-sex unions are legal. That’s right. Texas – a state that has fought to prevent gay unions is now fighting to keep married same-sex couples together. Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott is working to invalidate same-sex divorces that had already been granted by a judge. According to the article, he is currently appealing two different gay divorces in Austin and Dallas. Makes me think of MT Hilary’s facebook status:

So, Larry King is getting his 8th divorce, Elizabeth Taylor is possibly getting married for a 9th time, Jesse James and Tiger Woods are screwing EVERYTHING, yet the idea of same-sex marriage is what is going to destroy the institution of marriage?? REALLY??…”

Hey, Hilary! I agree – which is why I copied and pasted it onto my facebook status!

Speaking of facebook…

East Haven, Connecticut Mayor April Capone Almon, has donated her kidney to a constituent she only knew casually. Carlos Sanchez needed a kidney and no relatives or friends were matches. She had herself tested and learned that she was a match. The transplant happened a couple of weeks ago. Can you imagine? How far would you go if you knew you could save a strangers life?

In fun news, don’t forget to set your DVR’s for Saturday Night Live! Gabourey Sidibe will be hosting, and chances are that it will be MUCH BETTER than last week’s snooze fest.

Boy, am I glad that it’s Friday! I’ve been looking forward to the weekend ALL WEEK! What are your plans for the weekend? Anything exciting?

Of course, this is an open thread and you are free to discuss whatever you wish. What else is going on?

122 thoughts on “Friday Open Thread

  1. Back to work!

    Which is why I haven’t had much time to hang out here :)

    First two days went fine, though I was immediately reminded how unpredictable school life can be–first day back, I was called out to do lunch duty on the same day that the eighth graders were having a little conflict and I was the only adult outside with them (all went well).  Yesterday morning I walked into the building and the secretary said, “Can you cover 8th grade gym?”  I then found myself supervising football games and soccer games for 90 minutes.

    DH has a doctor’s appointment this morning and another on Monday–if those go well, he’ll be heading back to work himself next week!

    • great news!

      I can’t say that supervising 8th grade sports would be my favorite way to start the day, but so good that you can get back to “normal life”after all you have endured with your DH’s illness.

      Son is preparing to go into middle school in the fall, so any hints you can give me are appreciated. I already lost the battles of cursing and backtalk, but he does cook well.

  2. Back to work!

    Which is why I haven’t had much time to hang out here :)

    First two days went fine, though I was immediately reminded how unpredictable school life can be–first day back, I was called out to do lunch duty on the same day that the eighth graders were having a little conflict and I was the only adult outside with them (all went well).  Yesterday morning I walked into the building and the secretary said, “Can you cover 8th grade gym?”  I then found myself supervising football games and soccer games for 90 minutes.

    DH has a doctor’s appointment this morning and another on Monday–if those go well, he’ll be heading back to work himself next week!

    • great news!

      I can’t say that supervising 8th grade sports would be my favorite way to start the day, but so good that you can get back to “normal life”after all you have endured with your DH’s illness.

      Son is preparing to go into middle school in the fall, so any hints you can give me are appreciated. I already lost the battles of cursing and backtalk, but he does cook well.

  3. Getting ready to go

    to the bank with my son.  He and his wife are trying their best to get a mortgage in their own name.  I got called into the action as daughter in law had to work this morning and my son, well, he doesn’t pay so much attention to detail.

    Feel a little as if we are on an episode of House Hunters.  Looked at two houses with them yesterday evening, and both were really great….same price, but the taxes on one are double what they are on the other.  But, that house is in a really great neighborhood in a great area of the city.  The other house has every thing fully renovated, even down to absolutely beautiful window treatments, but while the neighborhood is all right, it’s not in an area that will allow for the most appreciation on the property.  

    Anyway, proud of my kids….hope they can find something a little bigger before the new baby arrives.  If they do, it will give me and my husband something to do over the summer while we await that arrival…we can get the house they are presently living in ready to rent out….that is, if one of my other kids doesn’t decide they want it after all.  That’s happened before.

  4. Getting ready to go

    to the bank with my son.  He and his wife are trying their best to get a mortgage in their own name.  I got called into the action as daughter in law had to work this morning and my son, well, he doesn’t pay so much attention to detail.

    Feel a little as if we are on an episode of House Hunters.  Looked at two houses with them yesterday evening, and both were really great….same price, but the taxes on one are double what they are on the other.  But, that house is in a really great neighborhood in a great area of the city.  The other house has every thing fully renovated, even down to absolutely beautiful window treatments, but while the neighborhood is all right, it’s not in an area that will allow for the most appreciation on the property.  

    Anyway, proud of my kids….hope they can find something a little bigger before the new baby arrives.  If they do, it will give me and my husband something to do over the summer while we await that arrival…we can get the house they are presently living in ready to rent out….that is, if one of my other kids doesn’t decide they want it after all.  That’s happened before.

  5. just back from the emergency room

    It seems I had a nasty allergic reaction to the antibiotic prescribed to me last week when I had mastitis …sigh…

    Last night I went to bed itchy, feeling like I had a couple of bug bites or something. Before turning in I noticed a small swollen spot on my lower lip; it has happened before without explanation, so I wasn’t too worried. And I didn’t take any benadryl because I’m nursing and wanted to ask my midwife first if it was safe.

    I woke up at 2 a.m. covered in welts and my lips looked like Octomom’s. No lie. Plus my fingers were itchy and swollen. I called my HMO’s triage nurse looking for advice on medication to take but she said if I had swelling in my face or extremities, that I should go to the ER.

    I got intravenous steroids and a histamine blocker and have a prescription for a 1-week steroid course, plus more anti-histamine. The doctor assured me the drugs are safe while nursing but I’m still worried.

    I know that health-wise these issues are small potatoes but I can’t seem to catch a break lately! :-/

    Now I have to care for a baby while drowsy on these drugs…

    • not-so-small potatoes….

      I’ve taken a lot of meds for a lot of reasons, but near the highest on the list of unpleasant drugs when one has to actually stay awake and alert are definitely those in the anti-histamine category.  

      • agreed

        I got intravenous antihistimines once due to an allergic reaction I had during a procedure.  I swear I was tired for 2 days!  DH said that I’d say like 2 words to him and nod off.  

        They worked, but they sucked in terms of alertness.

    • Oof!

      This has not been an easy maternity “leave” at all for you. It sucks to have to care for a baby when you are sick. Hope you feel better soon and get some help this weekend!

    • Eeek!

      That is so scary.  I will take and give benadryl at the drop of a hat because there are so many awful allergy-related ER trips in our family history.

    • Owie!Owie!

      My son gets welts once in awhile, I always blame the first really good strawberries of the season, when we really gorge on them. Other times, strawberries are fine.

      My husband got a bad allergic reaction once on a trip to India, from taking malaria meds. Like you, itchy all over. It turned out okay. Mastitis sounds bad enough without allergic reactions! Is there a boo-boo bunny for that? ;-)

      Feel better!

    • i’m sure it’s ok to take the meds-

      much better than not taking them, definitely!!

      you’re reminding me- about 16 years ago i was nursing my son and i wanted sleep medicine- i just couldn’t get enough sleep and it was ruining my life.  the dr wouldn’t prescribe me anything unless i would stop nursing.

      i wouldn’t, so he told me to take benadryl at bedtime.  i remember he said “it’s perfectly safe.  we give it to old people all of the time.”

    • Sorry you’re feeling awful

      and taking meds while nursing always sucks, more so when yu have a negative reaction.  Sorry, and I hope you get better soon!

  6. just back from the emergency room

    It seems I had a nasty allergic reaction to the antibiotic prescribed to me last week when I had mastitis …sigh…

    Last night I went to bed itchy, feeling like I had a couple of bug bites or something. Before turning in I noticed a small swollen spot on my lower lip; it has happened before without explanation, so I wasn’t too worried. And I didn’t take any benadryl because I’m nursing and wanted to ask my midwife first if it was safe.

    I woke up at 2 a.m. covered in welts and my lips looked like Octomom’s. No lie. Plus my fingers were itchy and swollen. I called my HMO’s triage nurse looking for advice on medication to take but she said if I had swelling in my face or extremities, that I should go to the ER.

    I got intravenous steroids and a histamine blocker and have a prescription for a 1-week steroid course, plus more anti-histamine. The doctor assured me the drugs are safe while nursing but I’m still worried.

    I know that health-wise these issues are small potatoes but I can’t seem to catch a break lately! :-/

    Now I have to care for a baby while drowsy on these drugs…

    • not-so-small potatoes….

      I’ve taken a lot of meds for a lot of reasons, but near the highest on the list of unpleasant drugs when one has to actually stay awake and alert are definitely those in the anti-histamine category.  

      • agreed

        I got intravenous antihistimines once due to an allergic reaction I had during a procedure.  I swear I was tired for 2 days!  DH said that I’d say like 2 words to him and nod off.  

        They worked, but they sucked in terms of alertness.

    • Oof!

      This has not been an easy maternity “leave” at all for you. It sucks to have to care for a baby when you are sick. Hope you feel better soon and get some help this weekend!

    • Eeek!

      That is so scary.  I will take and give benadryl at the drop of a hat because there are so many awful allergy-related ER trips in our family history.

    • Owie!Owie!

      My son gets welts once in awhile, I always blame the first really good strawberries of the season, when we really gorge on them. Other times, strawberries are fine.

      My husband got a bad allergic reaction once on a trip to India, from taking malaria meds. Like you, itchy all over. It turned out okay. Mastitis sounds bad enough without allergic reactions! Is there a boo-boo bunny for that? ;-)

      Feel better!

    • i’m sure it’s ok to take the meds-

      much better than not taking them, definitely!!

      you’re reminding me- about 16 years ago i was nursing my son and i wanted sleep medicine- i just couldn’t get enough sleep and it was ruining my life.  the dr wouldn’t prescribe me anything unless i would stop nursing.

      i wouldn’t, so he told me to take benadryl at bedtime.  i remember he said “it’s perfectly safe.  we give it to old people all of the time.”

    • Sorry you’re feeling awful

      and taking meds while nursing always sucks, more so when yu have a negative reaction.  Sorry, and I hope you get better soon!

  7. spoke

    with DS yesterday.  He got moved from the minimum security county barracks to the regular county jail for smoking a cigarette.

    The difference that makes to me is huge.  When he was at min security, I could visit him and sit across the table from him to talk.  At the regular jail it is the typical talk through the phone with bullet proof glass between us.  

    I really have to be having an emotionally strong day to do that, and I don’t see that I will be having one of those any time soon.  He also got time added, which means he is going to miss Mother’s Day.  

    Expensive cigarette.

    The heartache and pain that our family is experiencing over a marijuana conviction is overwhelming.  California is set to vote on regulating the legal use of marijuana in November, and while I doubt it will pass, if more people really understood what the cost is to families not to mention the courts and jails, I think they may rethink some of the down sides.

    • this

      This is all from marijuana? Crikey. I’m so sorry.

      I’m so pro-marijuana legalization, it drives me crazy when I hear stories like this. I don’t understand how alcohol is legal, like freaking 100-proof whiskey that can rot your liver, and weed isn’t. Let’s just legalize it, regulate it and be done with it. And why can’t an adult legally smoke up on the weekends if they choose? And, why is it ok to get sh-tfaced every night on wine but not to smoke up.

      Anyway, I am so, so sorry. I hope the time goes fast and he is ok in the meantime. Hugs.

      • thanks

        and I am not condoning the fact that my son chose not to live within the confines of the law.  That was definitely his choice and his consequences.  It just majorly sucks.  And Mother’s Day?  If it were not for my daughter, I would take a couple of Xanax and stay in bed.

        • yes

          Yes, it was his choice, but the consequences are too harsh unfortunately : (

          Kudos to you for planning to barrel through Mother’s Day for your daughter’s sake. Hang in there.

    • this sucks

      This is just one example of why I’m so passionate about the misuse of imprisonment as a form of “justice”.  How does this make your son a better person?  Exactly what benefit is society experiencing?  And why can’t we whip the winger nutbars into a frenzy over this waste of their tax dollars?

      How much longer do you expect him to be incarcerated?

      • thanks

        for the compassion…seriously.  it is unbelievably hard to talk about in real life.

        Yes, one cigarette moved him from min security to the main jail.  He had an opportunity to go back to the barracks and not have any consequences but they wanted him to rat someone out.  He weighed his options and the consequences of that and decided he did not want to be a rat in jail.

        UGH.  

    • Oh, I’m so sorry

      especially in light of this being a pot charge.  Inexcusable.

      They really came down that hard on him for a cigarette?  When chances are he is addicted to nicotine.  As a former smoker, that jus seems…

      Sigh.  Hugs to you.

      • seriously

        yes.  Cigarettes are contraband in jail, so yep.

        I agree that the laws need to change, I should probably share my story with one of the advocacy groups.  This has profoundly affected my son’s life and ours.  Total BS.  

  8. spoke

    with DS yesterday.  He got moved from the minimum security county barracks to the regular county jail for smoking a cigarette.

    The difference that makes to me is huge.  When he was at min security, I could visit him and sit across the table from him to talk.  At the regular jail it is the typical talk through the phone with bullet proof glass between us.  

    I really have to be having an emotionally strong day to do that, and I don’t see that I will be having one of those any time soon.  He also got time added, which means he is going to miss Mother’s Day.  

    Expensive cigarette.

    The heartache and pain that our family is experiencing over a marijuana conviction is overwhelming.  California is set to vote on regulating the legal use of marijuana in November, and while I doubt it will pass, if more people really understood what the cost is to families not to mention the courts and jails, I think they may rethink some of the down sides.

    • this

      This is all from marijuana? Crikey. I’m so sorry.

      I’m so pro-marijuana legalization, it drives me crazy when I hear stories like this. I don’t understand how alcohol is legal, like freaking 100-proof whiskey that can rot your liver, and weed isn’t. Let’s just legalize it, regulate it and be done with it. And why can’t an adult legally smoke up on the weekends if they choose? And, why is it ok to get sh-tfaced every night on wine but not to smoke up.

      Anyway, I am so, so sorry. I hope the time goes fast and he is ok in the meantime. Hugs.

      • thanks

        and I am not condoning the fact that my son chose not to live within the confines of the law.  That was definitely his choice and his consequences.  It just majorly sucks.  And Mother’s Day?  If it were not for my daughter, I would take a couple of Xanax and stay in bed.

        • yes

          Yes, it was his choice, but the consequences are too harsh unfortunately : (

          Kudos to you for planning to barrel through Mother’s Day for your daughter’s sake. Hang in there.

    • this sucks

      This is just one example of why I’m so passionate about the misuse of imprisonment as a form of “justice”.  How does this make your son a better person?  Exactly what benefit is society experiencing?  And why can’t we whip the winger nutbars into a frenzy over this waste of their tax dollars?

      How much longer do you expect him to be incarcerated?

      • thanks

        for the compassion…seriously.  it is unbelievably hard to talk about in real life.

        Yes, one cigarette moved him from min security to the main jail.  He had an opportunity to go back to the barracks and not have any consequences but they wanted him to rat someone out.  He weighed his options and the consequences of that and decided he did not want to be a rat in jail.

        UGH.  

    • Oh, I’m so sorry

      especially in light of this being a pot charge.  Inexcusable.

      They really came down that hard on him for a cigarette?  When chances are he is addicted to nicotine.  As a former smoker, that jus seems…

      Sigh.  Hugs to you.

      • seriously

        yes.  Cigarettes are contraband in jail, so yep.

        I agree that the laws need to change, I should probably share my story with one of the advocacy groups.  This has profoundly affected my son’s life and ours.  Total BS.  

  9. Peep peep peep

    We have more baby chicks, with hopefully more on the way. It’s so maddening when they don’t hatch all at once.

    I’ve started telling them in a stern voice, “Come out with your wings up!”

    We were expecting the ones in the incubator, but we also let the hens set on some eggs and were surprised to find a baby out there yesterday. It’s impressive how flat and large they can make themselves to cover their eggs.

      • The plan is to build

        another “chicken tractor” or two and hope they do more of my gardening for me, as well as being chickens she can show at the fair. :-)

        These new ones are our first full-sized chickens, so we’ll see how they work out. Also – thank goodness – no feathered feet!

  10. Peep peep peep

    We have more baby chicks, with hopefully more on the way. It’s so maddening when they don’t hatch all at once.

    I’ve started telling them in a stern voice, “Come out with your wings up!”

    We were expecting the ones in the incubator, but we also let the hens set on some eggs and were surprised to find a baby out there yesterday. It’s impressive how flat and large they can make themselves to cover their eggs.

      • The plan is to build

        another “chicken tractor” or two and hope they do more of my gardening for me, as well as being chickens she can show at the fair. :-)

        These new ones are our first full-sized chickens, so we’ll see how they work out. Also – thank goodness – no feathered feet!

  11. Ah, Facebook.

    Last night I got caught in the most surreal religious discussion ever.  I have a friend who is a Religiously Observant Jew (think Hasidic) in Israel.  I met her when we were both students at Cal Berkeley.  Anyway, she posted an article about a restaurant in NY, owned by a nominally Jewish man and his non-Jewish girlfriend.  The restaurant’s name is the Hebrew word for “non-kosher”, and they serve pork and shellfish there.  I commented, from an American point of view, and it started devolving into a series of arguments about who “counts” as Jewish and who doesn’t.

    Then, oddly enough, the friend of mine butted back into the thread, not only to stand up for me, but to call me HOLY (quite the compliment from a Jew to a Gentile), and praise me in multiple paragraphs.  Her praise made me tear up.

    Off to teach a class, then to certify a new instructor, and then to a doctor’s appointment, and then…who knows.  A nap, maybe?

  12. Ah, Facebook.

    Last night I got caught in the most surreal religious discussion ever.  I have a friend who is a Religiously Observant Jew (think Hasidic) in Israel.  I met her when we were both students at Cal Berkeley.  Anyway, she posted an article about a restaurant in NY, owned by a nominally Jewish man and his non-Jewish girlfriend.  The restaurant’s name is the Hebrew word for “non-kosher”, and they serve pork and shellfish there.  I commented, from an American point of view, and it started devolving into a series of arguments about who “counts” as Jewish and who doesn’t.

    Then, oddly enough, the friend of mine butted back into the thread, not only to stand up for me, but to call me HOLY (quite the compliment from a Jew to a Gentile), and praise me in multiple paragraphs.  Her praise made me tear up.

    Off to teach a class, then to certify a new instructor, and then to a doctor’s appointment, and then…who knows.  A nap, maybe?

  13. This is so effed up

    My former roommate from college friended me on Facebook.  She is expecting her third child.  Her first two were born about a month early and were not able to go home with her right away but were otherwise healthy.

    So anyway, since Easter she has been posting about how her third baby should be coming any day and she had better arrive soon so she won’t be a huge baby etc.  She has had lots of status updates like that in the past three weeks.  I was very sympathetic thinking that maybe this time she was well past her due date and was very uncomfortable.  It turns out that the baby is not even due until next Thursday.

    Now admittedly this person is not the swiftest fish in the barrel and I’ve known that for some time but why would you want a baby to arrive early enough that there could be problems when you’ve been through that twice?  You all know that I’ve had big babies so far and I’ve never complained this much about a child getting too comfy in there.  Besides, aren’t we supposed to want to reach our due dates for optimal development?!  Especially after having two and not being able to bring them home right away?! This is insane.

    • yeah that’s a little nuts

      My 2nd was 2 weeks late and (in my opinion) he’s been very physically well developed, walked early, danced, etc.  I really hated being pregnant but i think it was really good for him.

      i can’t imagine REALLy wishing for an early baby who is not ready yet!  Very short sighted!

    • docs

      I think doctors contribute to this. You’re technically full-term at 37 weeks, and I’ve known doctors that have induced let’s say at 38 weeks for no reason. So I’m wondering if her doctor is contributing?

      • Maybe

        But given her history, I can’t imagine any doctor worth his or her salt itching to deliver a baby too early.  Her 36ish week babies were under 5lbs or whatever the magic weight to go home normally is.  It sure sounds like she is confusing a normal birthweight with huge.  I think we fetishize small sizes in women and this disordered thinking is trickling down to infants despite all of the evidence that low birthweights are not optimal for the babies.

        • maybe she is scared of delivering

          a baby bigger than 5 lbs?  My first was 3 weeks early and less than 6 lbs.  The second was full term at 8 lbs…I admit- I was a little worried about how hard it would be with a bigger baby…

        • missed that

          I missed that part of your post. Yeah, that’s kind of odd.

          She might be scared about delivering a bigger baby if she has always delivered such small ones?

          • Maybe

            It’s just that her other babies were not healthy enough to be released right away.  Why would you want that again?  That part makes no sense even if she is scared to have a bigger baby but still we’re probably not talking about a baby around the 10lb mark or something.  Bigger in this case probably means the 6-8 lb range.    My way of thinking would be what is best for the baby not what is the least scary for me.

        • No magic weight

          It’s all about lungs & eating. When DS came home, he already weighed over 8 lbs, which was five pounds more than when he was born. But as the mom of two preemies, yes, I find that a bit weird. With DD, all I wanted was to hold her right away & take her home when I went. Well, I was knocked out for the delivery, so there went that, but I did get to take her home, and it meant the world to me. It was actually weird; I kept thinking someone was going to take her back. I mean, take a baby home at only four days old? That was odd to me! And even though she was four weeks early, I was grateful for every extra day, and I would’ve gladly gone another three weeks until my c-section was scheduled.

          • yes, whereas my

            34 week twins came home at about four and a half pounds.  They need to be able to eat, gain wait, and maintain body temperature.

      • ACOG has recently even

        issued warnings about this practice.  There must be some reason to believe that it is contributing to the high levels of prematurity that are seen.  I know a lot of doctors were using that 38 week mark as “term” and scheduling c-sections as much as two weeks earlier.  Hello….38 weeks is NOT full term…it’s just the earliest point when you can consider a baby might be at term.

    • Sadly, there are a lot of

      doctors out there who push this attitude.  I only encountered it once…when I was pregnant with my sixth baby, I actually went 5 days past my due date.  I’d never done that before…in fact, I always went at least 2-3 weeks early and usually delivered babies around the 8 lb mark.  Well, by the time I was about 38 weeks, this doctor started really worrying about me having a “post due baby”.  His size was certainly on the normal side for my babies, but she acted as if when I hit 40 weeks I was already a month past my date.

      And most women are certainly able to deliver babies of normal size.  I will say, in your friend’s defense, however, that if you’ve always delivered a couple weeks early, going to your due date can feel as if you are way past due.  That did happen to me….it’s all about expectations.  I had thought I would have a baby by the middle of September at the latest, and sort of made my plans accordingly.  Who would have thought that he would have hung around in there until October 4th?

      • yep

        They do. And they absolutely freak the minute your due date comes. Sometimes even before, pushing a billion tests etc. I found I could always put them off before the due date, but after the due date, they were insistent.

        • Seriously,

          I went in for the last pre-natal check up I had, and I was still about a day or two before my due date.  She was going on and on about how I was post due!  I had not even hit 40 weeks!

        • That is really weird

          My OB didn’t want me to go more than two weeks past the due date, but we had the suspicion maybe the date was off somehow because I didn’t know when I conceived and they just back-calculated it.  I still think she might have come out naturally later that week, but I would have hated being in the hospital over Christmas, and she certainly came out looking over-cooked.

  14. This is so effed up

    My former roommate from college friended me on Facebook.  She is expecting her third child.  Her first two were born about a month early and were not able to go home with her right away but were otherwise healthy.

    So anyway, since Easter she has been posting about how her third baby should be coming any day and she had better arrive soon so she won’t be a huge baby etc.  She has had lots of status updates like that in the past three weeks.  I was very sympathetic thinking that maybe this time she was well past her due date and was very uncomfortable.  It turns out that the baby is not even due until next Thursday.

    Now admittedly this person is not the swiftest fish in the barrel and I’ve known that for some time but why would you want a baby to arrive early enough that there could be problems when you’ve been through that twice?  You all know that I’ve had big babies so far and I’ve never complained this much about a child getting too comfy in there.  Besides, aren’t we supposed to want to reach our due dates for optimal development?!  Especially after having two and not being able to bring them home right away?! This is insane.

    • yeah that’s a little nuts

      My 2nd was 2 weeks late and (in my opinion) he’s been very physically well developed, walked early, danced, etc.  I really hated being pregnant but i think it was really good for him.

      i can’t imagine REALLy wishing for an early baby who is not ready yet!  Very short sighted!

    • docs

      I think doctors contribute to this. You’re technically full-term at 37 weeks, and I’ve known doctors that have induced let’s say at 38 weeks for no reason. So I’m wondering if her doctor is contributing?

      • Maybe

        But given her history, I can’t imagine any doctor worth his or her salt itching to deliver a baby too early.  Her 36ish week babies were under 5lbs or whatever the magic weight to go home normally is.  It sure sounds like she is confusing a normal birthweight with huge.  I think we fetishize small sizes in women and this disordered thinking is trickling down to infants despite all of the evidence that low birthweights are not optimal for the babies.

        • maybe she is scared of delivering

          a baby bigger than 5 lbs?  My first was 3 weeks early and less than 6 lbs.  The second was full term at 8 lbs…I admit- I was a little worried about how hard it would be with a bigger baby…

        • missed that

          I missed that part of your post. Yeah, that’s kind of odd.

          She might be scared about delivering a bigger baby if she has always delivered such small ones?

          • Maybe

            It’s just that her other babies were not healthy enough to be released right away.  Why would you want that again?  That part makes no sense even if she is scared to have a bigger baby but still we’re probably not talking about a baby around the 10lb mark or something.  Bigger in this case probably means the 6-8 lb range.    My way of thinking would be what is best for the baby not what is the least scary for me.

        • No magic weight

          It’s all about lungs & eating. When DS came home, he already weighed over 8 lbs, which was five pounds more than when he was born. But as the mom of two preemies, yes, I find that a bit weird. With DD, all I wanted was to hold her right away & take her home when I went. Well, I was knocked out for the delivery, so there went that, but I did get to take her home, and it meant the world to me. It was actually weird; I kept thinking someone was going to take her back. I mean, take a baby home at only four days old? That was odd to me! And even though she was four weeks early, I was grateful for every extra day, and I would’ve gladly gone another three weeks until my c-section was scheduled.

          • yes, whereas my

            34 week twins came home at about four and a half pounds.  They need to be able to eat, gain wait, and maintain body temperature.

      • ACOG has recently even

        issued warnings about this practice.  There must be some reason to believe that it is contributing to the high levels of prematurity that are seen.  I know a lot of doctors were using that 38 week mark as “term” and scheduling c-sections as much as two weeks earlier.  Hello….38 weeks is NOT full term…it’s just the earliest point when you can consider a baby might be at term.

    • Sadly, there are a lot of

      doctors out there who push this attitude.  I only encountered it once…when I was pregnant with my sixth baby, I actually went 5 days past my due date.  I’d never done that before…in fact, I always went at least 2-3 weeks early and usually delivered babies around the 8 lb mark.  Well, by the time I was about 38 weeks, this doctor started really worrying about me having a “post due baby”.  His size was certainly on the normal side for my babies, but she acted as if when I hit 40 weeks I was already a month past my date.

      And most women are certainly able to deliver babies of normal size.  I will say, in your friend’s defense, however, that if you’ve always delivered a couple weeks early, going to your due date can feel as if you are way past due.  That did happen to me….it’s all about expectations.  I had thought I would have a baby by the middle of September at the latest, and sort of made my plans accordingly.  Who would have thought that he would have hung around in there until October 4th?

      • yep

        They do. And they absolutely freak the minute your due date comes. Sometimes even before, pushing a billion tests etc. I found I could always put them off before the due date, but after the due date, they were insistent.

        • Seriously,

          I went in for the last pre-natal check up I had, and I was still about a day or two before my due date.  She was going on and on about how I was post due!  I had not even hit 40 weeks!

        • That is really weird

          My OB didn’t want me to go more than two weeks past the due date, but we had the suspicion maybe the date was off somehow because I didn’t know when I conceived and they just back-calculated it.  I still think she might have come out naturally later that week, but I would have hated being in the hospital over Christmas, and she certainly came out looking over-cooked.

  15. Thanks for

    the mention, Gloria!  I usually stay away from the “copy and paste” your status update stuff anymore, but couldn’t resist that one.  

  16. Thanks for

    the mention, Gloria!  I usually stay away from the “copy and paste” your status update stuff anymore, but couldn’t resist that one.  

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