Tuesday Morning Open Thread

What’s up?

Thanksgiving is coming up, which for many families means hanging out with family members you don’t get along with or even rarely know. My friend Peggy over at the Berkeley Community Examiner succinctly captured this.

In somewhat related, but depressing news: 49 million Americans do not have dependable access to adequate food, the largest number since the government started tracking it in 1995, according to the Washington Post.

The Love Isn’t Enough blog is covering research by the Evan B. Donaldson Adoption Institute on how to “promote healthy identity formation in adoption.” Also, Love Isn’t Enough ran a fascinating column about the lack of African-American mommy memoirs and blogs on the Internet — as well as the absence of black mothers in the media-concocted mommy wars.

Consumer Reports just put out a list of the most reliable cars.

The Washington Post had an article on how smoking marijuana has gained public acceptance, even among straight-laced baby boomers. What do you think? Do you smoke??

What else is in the news? What’s up with you?

23 thoughts on “Tuesday Morning Open Thread

  1. Loved the

    Thanksgiving Reunion post over at BPN.  I posted a while back that my brother and his family usually invade my house for a few weeks during Xmas, Turkey day, or both.  Well, this time it looks like they are just coming for Thanksgiving.  And, I’m sticking to my guns and not cooking.  I plan to enjoy the huge buffet spread at the Marriott and relish in the fact that I won’t have a single dish to wash.  Hee!

    I really don’t have a problem with pot.  The problem is, when people go overboard.  During a short period in my life between colleges, I became what one would call a “wake and bake” user.  I think it should be legal in some capacity but I don’t see it happening in this country any time soon.  I can’t smoke it now as it always gives me massive sinus infection after.  If you’ve ever had a bad sinus infection then you know that’s a pretty big deterrent.  

  2. I should run for President

    ’cause I can honestly say I’ve never, ever used an illegal drug.  (Mostly ’cause I never had the opportunity when I was young- not for lack of trying, trust me.)

    Molly’s entering her 12th hour without a fever.  If we can make it to the end of the day then she can go back to school tomorrow.  The doctor’s office has told me not to get my hopes up.  They say that there’s sort of an “eye” to this flu- a couple of days where kids seem to recover, the bam!  Back to the high fever.  Anyone had that experience?

    • I’m one of those myself

      In spite of the fact that I had a close family member who was a pot smoker and I grew up with it around the house, I never indulged, and never even considered anything else.  I really didn’t even drink until I was 25, and I’m still only a very occasional drinker.

      I have also had partners who were smokers, but it never really caused anything but trouble (my ex-fiance almost got kicked out of school when his bong was discovered) and I’m much happier living with someone who no longer partakes.

      • I should mention

        that I have no real moral opposition to pot–just to doing illegal things that can have nasty consequences.  I don’t think it’s any more dangerous than alcohol or other legal substances if used in moderation.  I’d happily sign on as someone who believes it should be legal.

    • Yes about the fever

      That is exactly what happened with Joey.  He was out an entire week.  He almost made it to school on Friday.  I had his coat on and everything and then I noticed he didn’t look right and sure enough the fever was back.  BTW I could run for pres too!

  3. So many Americans lie …..

    I am a Baby Boomer, I smoked pot quite a lot in college (1971-75) and almost everyone I knew did.  Then I moved from Oklahoma to California, after college.  When I have returned to Okla. to visit family, I am amused at all the people I went to college with — and yes, got stoned with — insist they NEVER took any drug.  I also hear them tell their children, “*I* never took drugs — not even pot — you shouldn’t either!”  I just laugh.  So, you young ‘uns — don’t assume your parents never got high — maybe they did.

    Now I guess it is one thing if you lie to your children about your having taken drugs long ago.   (I do not agree with this, but I can see the point.)  But at a class reunion, where there are only adults there?  They are delusional.

    And by the way, if CA made MJ legal, the taxes on it would help our economy a lot.

    • 2 things

      One, why would someone lie to the people they were high with?  Is that not the craziest thing ever?  Wow.

      Two, seriously, with all the financial hurt CA is in, legalizing and taxing would help A LOT.  Don’t get your hopes up, though.

      • hahaha

        I don’t know why they would lie with those who were with them when they got stoned.  The only thing I can think of is the first reunion I went to was the 20th, so it had been — literally 2 decades since I saw them smoke.  I remembered, though.  I guess they assumed no one remembered.  Or, maybe they are really insane and have blocked it from their memories.  It was a small town, though — and the vast majority stay there.  So — every last one of them had a bunch living around them who were still there.

        As for CA and pot:  As you probably know, having lived in CA recently, pot is not really illegal, today, by state laws.  Yes, technically it is, but no STATE law person will arrest you for it.  (And if they do, it is thrown out.)  It is only the feds.  (And don’t they have more important things to do?  Oh, I guess there is plenty of federal money to solve all the country’s problems — with extra to chase pot smokers.)

  4. Hunger

    DH sent this email to me a few minutes ago:

    Read this a couple times in your head:

    Somewhere in the world, a child dies of hunger every five seconds — even though the planet has more than enough food for all.

    U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon laid out this sobering statistic as he kicked off a three-day summit on world food security Monday in Rome.
    “Today, more than 1 billion people are hungry,” he told the assembled leaders. Six million children die of hunger every year — 17,000 every day, he said.

    Wasn’t it Michael Pollen who asserted that the soy we feed cows annually in the US is enough to feed 9 billion people? (And, cows shouldn’t even be eating soy…gah!)

    Priorities are so fucked up. Why is distribution of resources so incredibly difficult?

  5. Not me

    I’ve never smoked pot. I was dead-set against it when I was a teen and in college; early in high school, I had some friends who threw me over in favor of going a stoner route, and that stung. And then I just never did it. I wouldn’t even know how to go about acquiring it. Today, I’m not morally opposed to it, and I absolutely think it should be legalized, regulated, taxed, etc. It seems silly that cigarettes and alcohol are legal but pot isn’t. If I’m remembering correctly, wasn’t marijuana made illegal in the first place because of anger/fear against Mexico? I wonder what would happen if a spotlight was shone on the reasons pot is illegal at all. People just take it for granted that it is.

  6. I’ve never really

    found a drug that did it for me.  I drink lightly, but alcohol makes me sick.  I smoked weed occasionally in high school and college, but never went out of my way for it–I don’t think I ever bought it myself.  I do enjoy the Rush Limbaugh drugs, but since I know being addicted to RX painkillers isn’t all sunshine and roses, I stay away from them.  Luckily, I haven’t had chronic pain.  When my doctor offers them to me I tend to turn them down because I’m afraid I’ll become a drug addict, and anyway, a housewife on pills?  How cliche is that?

    Still, it doesn’t seem fair.  It’s fine to have a glass of wine at night, and mostly socially, if not legally, acceptable to smoke weed.  But if oxycontin is your poison, that’s trouble.  So, I live a life primarily free of mood altering substances.

  7. I haven’t smoked pot

    since I was in my early twenties.  I have no problem with people using it, but for myself, I have no great desire to do so.  It never did that much for me.   It was all right, but as far as mind altering substances, well, that’s about all it was.  I’m still trying to understand what the big fuss is over.  I would be hesitant to use it now because I don’t know what effect it would have on  me physically.  I would be embarrassed to show up in an ER because I’d had a joint and couldn’t get my heart rate back down below 200 bpm.  And yup…that does happen to some people.  At my age, that’s a humiliation I can live without.

    • You’re right

      I am 56 years old.  I hadn’t smoked pot since 1980.  But last spring I did — just to see what it was like now.  After almost 30 years.  It was the same in some ways but different in others.  How it makes your mouth feel?  Exactly the same — I remembered that quite quickly.  The HIGH part?  Not how I remembered it at all.  Oh, I was high, alright, and got the munchies really good, but the rest?  Not familiar.  I don’t know if I just didn’t remember, or if it was different, but that was it.  I did the experiment, realized you never can go back and now it’s done.  

      I remain alcohol- and drug-free.  (Except for tylenol)

  8. We’ve actually got a Turkey Day

    with friends this year.  Should be nice to eat with people I’m actually thankful to see.

    As for the pot thing, I have an RX in California, for my bipolar/anxiety issues, and used it (at night) every few months to keep from strangling my brother, but don’t really anymore.  Don’t feel like I can, as the only adult in the house, you know?  Don’t get what the big deal is with it, though.  Seriously, what is the big deal?

  9. No, never smoked pot, even though it’s legal

    Here, you can grow your own in limited quantities, or go to a coffeeshop (don’t ask me why, but that’s what we call them) to buy somepot, mushrooms, or whatever other soft drug you like.

    Thing is, I never smoked a single cigarette, because I’ve always hated the smell, and pot to me smells worse (just cycling passed a coffeeshop makes me nausious). I’ve never had the slightest inclination to try. Not on principle at all; I do drink some alcohol and coffee, so I’m hardly drug-free :-)

    • true dat

      I always hated the smell.  If I were to use it I’d probably eat it.  

      Then again, I’m just not a risk-taker and am too afraid of getting sick or dizzy to ever even want to drink to the point of drunkenness, so I doubt it’ll ever happen.

  10. Not at all

    I tried it a few times but didn’t like it.  There are other drugs I love but are far too dangerous to play with so I stick to alcohol when I need some altering.  I’ll probably try weed again in the future though just for kicks.  I think it should be legal.  Tax and regulate.

  11. it’s supposed to be helpful for chronic pain.

    Especially neuropathic pain.

    But I’ve never tried it, and I live with someone subject to truly random pee testing. He has a CDL. If he is parked at an intersection and some moron on the phone drives into his truck, HE gets taken to a clinic by a cop and pee tested. So he has to scrupulously avoid everything.  Plus there is the illegal factor, and I have ethical issues about the illegal drug trade (Drugs are often sold to make money for things I have ethical issues with). So until it’s legal, it stays out of the house.

    • yup

      I don’t think I’m ready to see my 8 year old lighting up.  But it’s certainly crossed my mind.  Vicoden will presumably stop working for him as his symptoms get worse, and next tier of stuff for neuropathic pain is pretty nasty.

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